FWIW, I MX/Antix also avoid systemd. > MX Linux ships with systemd present but disabled by default. The MX Linux > team strongly urges users to remain with this configuration which uses > sysvinit instead. This page simply provides information for those interested > in the question.
JN On 2021-07-14 11:16 a.m., fz wrote: > Hey, I'm a serial lurker on OCLUG or whatever it's called these days. > > I recently climbed out from under systemd and have found Devuan to be the > current sweet spot for people who like > autonomy, yet have access to the large GNU ecosystem. I'm talking server > side, but I know a guy running it on the > desktop too. It's basically Debian, without systemd. (install Debian, then > run a few scripts, found on the Devuan.org > website, which rip out systemd and put in eudev. Then point to the Devuan > repositories and install whatever). > > I used to run Ubuntu everywhere/desktop/server, I'm an applications > programmer, but then for various reasons got my > fingers into more system level activities and realized the hot mess of > systemd was blocking me, and nearly > incomprehensible, closely followed by all the rest of the commercialization > of Ubuntu. So I moved to Debian, then on my > friend's suggestion tried Devuan, to find it highly compatible, but I still > had my hands on the steering wheel to do > what I wanted. > > Currently I'm configuring a webserver with nginx/maria/php etc all the > open/non proprietary stuff on Devuan in the cloud > (digital ocean) and ... it works. Just compare a list of running services on > whatever you're using to Devuan, and draw > your own conclusions. > > Imho, you get all the benefits without all the strings attached of the big > players deciding what you need and how you > should use it. I've used CentOS before to setup an IBM qRadar installation, > and ... it was nightmarish, just like all > things IBM. Again, IMHO, if you don't really NEED the compatibility to, who > knows what, your clients, or your own legacy > data/systems, why would you want all the bloat and worse, the uncertainty > that IBM, Poettering, or others just decide to > go a new horrible commercial way next year? Gnome 3 anyone? Did anyone really > want systemd? > > It's happening a lot lately. > > > On 2021-07-14 10:49 a.m., Michael P. Soulier wrote: >> Debian works fine for me. :) >> >> Mike >> >> On 2021-07-14 10:19 a.m., Alan McKay wrote: >>> Picking up this old thread ... was just looking at a bunch of things >>> and as much as I dislike Oracle (and what they did to Sun) I have to >>> say this is a pretty compelling story for anyone looking for an >>> alternative to CentOS now that "Stream" has been announced >>> >>> https://linux.oracle.com/switch/centos/ >>> >>> >> >> To unsubscribe send a blank message to linux+unsubscr...@linux-ottawa.org >> To get help send a blank message to linux+h...@linux-ottawa.org >> To visit the archives: https://lists.linux-ottawa.org >> > > To unsubscribe send a blank message to linux+unsubscr...@linux-ottawa.org > To get help send a blank message to linux+h...@linux-ottawa.org > To visit the archives: https://lists.linux-ottawa.org > To unsubscribe send a blank message to linux+unsubscr...@linux-ottawa.org To get help send a blank message to linux+h...@linux-ottawa.org To visit the archives: https://lists.linux-ottawa.org
