On Sun, 21 Jan 2007 09:18 am, Chad Martin wrote:
> Though you said another reboot fixed the problem, I'd like to throw in
> my thoughts on the matter in case they prove useful.
>
> Arsenic wrote:
> > I spent the better part of yesterday making this work, and now that I've
> > restarted, it's not working anymore.
> >
> > I just installed amaroK-1.3.9 and now I've got no sound.  dmesg says:
> > application amarokapp uses obsolete OSS audio interface
> >
> > but how can it be if it was working last night?  the settings are all the
> > same. anyway, I've lost not just the amaroK sound, but all system sounds
> > etc as well.  The 'soundcard detection' thing doesn't work.  It told me
> > to check out /root/scsound.log but that doesn't seem to tell me why it
> > isn't working. I had sound before I installed amaroK, and I had sound in
> > amaroK until I restarted the computer... now I have nothing...
>
> Hmm, I'm not sure what amaroK does, but if you're getting messages in
> dmesg about OSS, I have a feeling that it installed a kernel module to
> run sound.  You wouldn't have seen this problem until after a restart if
> the software simply installed the modules and configured your machine to
> load them on boot, but didn't actually load them at the time, or they
> failed to load.
>
> If this problem crops up again, I'd suggest looking into whether amaroK
> installs sound kernel modules, and whether there are options to install
> ALSA modules instead.  OSS has been deprecated since kernel 2.6 came out.
>
> Chad Martin

Thanks for your input, Chad.  Even though my sound is working now, I'm still 
getting the dmesg error... 

I have to admit, I'm slightly (very) confused about what exactly is going on 
with this whole sound thing.  I thought, somehow, that I was using ALSA.  I 
thought (I'm guessing that I'm wrong now) that ALSA was where all my sound 
comes from, but that what I get from amaroK is piped through something else 
first to make it work...??  

There's an option in amaroK that lets you choose what 'engine' to use.  I have 
no idea what an engine is, but I've been browsing through some forums dealing 
with amaroK and I've discovered that most people advise against using the 
'GStreamer' engine (the one I'm using) with amaroK.  What they suggest 
instead is using the 'xine' engine.  I don't know if that is where my issue 
comes from, but I thought it couldn't hurt to run the thing the way everyone 
says you should run it.  

BUT...  I've been trying to install xine on and off for the past year or so.  
I always end up with unresolvable dependency issues.  I get...

Error: Missing Dependency: libcdio.so.6(CDIO_6) is needed by package xine-lib
Error: Missing Dependency: libiso9660.so.4 is needed by package xine-lib
Error: Missing Dependency: libcdio.so.6 is needed by package xine-lib

so I:

# yum whatprovides libcdio.so.6

and get:

libcdio.i386                             0.76-1.fc4             extras

So I: 

yum  install libcdio.i386 

and get:

Nothing to do

I: yum search libcdio.i386

and get:

No matches found

I'm not sure how I got through this bit the last time I tried, but I remember 
that I did get past it...I think it just required specifying the version I 
wanted to install.  Anyway, what I ended up with, after installing 
libcdio-0.76 was another missing dependency that 'whatprovides' told me 
needed the new version: libcdio-0.77.   So I installed 0.77 and ran 'yum 
install xine' again and got the original error again, telling me to install 
0.76... every time I get to this place I give up.  

It's very frustrating.  I'm sure there's a way around it, coz once upon a 
time, years ago when I first got into Linux, I did get xine installed.  But 
I'm damned if I can do it now.  

I realize most of what I've said is pretty vague.  It's hard to be specific 
when you're not sure how things are supposed to work, or what the words that 
you're using actually mean.  I have other questions to ask, but I'm not sure 
how, without knowing what I'm talking about...  Anyway, any advice on how to 
proceed would be very much appreciated, even it's just to point me towards a 
resource that explains 'sound' in Linux in layman's terms, coz I'm feeling 
very lost right now.... 

Arsenic


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