On Thu, Sep 20, 2007 at 04:16:57AM +0000, dr_ovalle wrote:
> Thank you for your advise.
>
>
> Unfortunately, there is no Unleashed book for Sabayon yet(the distro
> I´m using), however, I think is a lot of fun learning in the internet
> too.
Ah, OK. Sabayon is based on Gentoo--Daniel Robbins, who created Gentoo,
writes some of the best documentation out there. (He has a bash
tutorial--if you go to gentoo.org and on the menu on the left, you'll
see towards the bottom, something called either developer works or IBM
or something--it links to some of his articles.
The Gentoo forums and wiki might also be helpful. Sabayon is a
relatively new distribution, and I don't know how much they have in the
way of documentation--from what little I understand (I haven't used
Sabayon and I haven't used Gentoo in several years) the differences are
probably to your benefit, Sabayon should be more newcomer friendly.
>
> I am trying to resolve the problems in my laptop, I haven´t done it
> yet, but I am learning (fast I hope). I am consulting webpages in
> three languages
What languages? (Idle curiosity).
and getting a lot of help from people like you, and I
> see, there is plenty of information, but it is disperse, and its
> variable, depending on the distro you are using.
Yes, that's always a problem. You might become, for example, an expert
on RedHat based distributions, then you change to a Debian based one and
you have to learn a whole new set of commands to, for example, change
default startup scripts and the like. This holds true for any O/S of
course--it's easier to make the transition from one BSD to another, but
there are still things that will be different.
As you say, the information is scattered all over the place. Even the
BSD's, which are more unified (that is to say, FreeBSD, for example, has
one web site with a ton of information) will have a FAQ here, another
thing here in their handbook, and a third thing in yet another place.
With Linux, especially with over 400 distributions (though most of them
are based on 6 or 7 distributions) it's bewildering.
At times, rude people will say RTFM. (Read the erm, Fine Manual). Feel
free to quote my earlier statement that Linux man pages are the absolute
worst.
On the other hand, you'll often get nice people who will point you to a
forum or thread that will help, and often they'll even find the thread
for you.
One thing that will help--once you understand the basics of a command,
you can then look at the man page--even Linux man pages become clearer
after awhile. (I'm very down on them right now--for the last 6 years
I've been working more with FreeBSD, recently changed jobs, and now work
primarily with Linux. It's like learning to play guitar on a terrible
instrument, then, getting a good one, then having to go back to the
terrible one.)
However, the situation is improving--many third party applications for
example, have documentation written by people who are enthusiastic about
the program and write clearly.
Yes, the information is all over the web. Daniel Robbins' bash shell
articles might help, or might be a bit too much right now. One doesn't
eat an elephant in a single bite. You'll find that it gradually becomes
clearer and clearer--where you start with baby steps, after awhile,
you'll be taking larger steps.
However I´m doing
> things in the text mode, and suiting the commands for my distro when
> the commands don´t work as advised.
Heh, yup, that happens a lot. :) Sometimes, whatever you're reading
will be outdated, or, as different distros put things in different
places, you'll get file not found, etc. etc. Again, with time, you'll
become better at dealing with that. You sound like you have the right
attitude and are enjoying it.
>
> I met a guy who offered to fix the issues in my computer, but that is
> not what I want. I want to do it myself.
Well, I'm sure that sometimes he will be able to answer a question.
It's not really cheating. :)
>
> Thank you very much. I´ll read all that.
Hang in there, it sounds like you're doing fine. And don't worry
about the times when you're ready to smash the laptop on the ground or,
(even worse, perhaps) go back to Windows. It happens to the best of us.
--
Scott Robbins
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