When you decide what makes you happy - will you post it please. From your 
original comments/questions do you thing Debian may be the ticket to avoid the 
ongoing upgrades ? 

(FYI...You talked about 'Pennsyltuckians' and it is Pennsylvanians thank you. 
When you bad mouth someone as you do in Philadelphia you don't expect avoiding 
the hospital bill. THAT is ALSO the brotherly love in Philly - you bad mouth 
somebody you get floored. It is the high respect thing - the hood thang. Just 
the way we carry ourselves I guess. Gang city ? - No, we have proudly several 
prestigious Ivy League Colleges here in Philly and very very proud of them. The 
NFL calls Eagles fans the hardest in the league. )

--- In [email protected], "Paul" <pfrederick1@...> wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In [email protected], Roy <linuxcanuck@> wrote:
> >
> > I do not want to turn this into an Ubuntu love fest. I also can see this
> > degenerating into a competition among distros and desktops. Enjoy the
> > choice. I think that Canonical has done much to broaden that choice. It is
> > driving much innovation and attracting new users to Linux. Whether you like
> > it or not is another question. Shuttleworth is not only putting his money
> > where his mouth is but he is also stepping up and showing leadership where
> > previously there was none. I commend him and Canonical for that, but do not
> > agree with all they do.
> > 
> > BTW, WUBI was not begun by Canonical. It was an independent project that
> > was later incorporated into Ubuntu. The first installers were just
> > a simple exe file that you downloaded from their own site. A year
> > later Canonical saw the value and put it onto their disk starting with 8.04.
> > 
> > Ubuntu is the top desktop distribution by far and probably the top with all
> > things included, but that becomes harder to prove. Debian could just as
> > easily lead in that department. Debian is ahead when it comes to servers
> > and to other architectures. Fedora is the second top desktop distribution.
> > Curiously Linux Mint which is top on Distrowatch is well behind in terms of
> > actual usage on the desktop and it has no presence elsewhere. This is not
> > meant as a knock on Mint, but rather to keep it in perspective. DW numbers
> > mean nothing.
> > 
> > I have a bit of a problem with Canonical. Recently the Raspberry Pi (Google
> > it) wanted to run Ubuntu. But it has an older ARM processor. Ubuntu told
> > them not only would they not support that architecture but asked them to
> > stop using Ubuntu altogether. Fedora stepped up and provided an OS and now
> > Arch has done the same. I don't think that Canonical is showing wisdom and
> > it makes me question what they are doing. The problem might be with their
> > own hardware aspirations with Ubuntu TV, but it could have been handled
> > better. It leaves a bitter taste in the mouth.
> > 
> > http://www.linuxuser.co.uk/features/raspberry-pi-interview-eban-upton-reveals-all/
> > 
> > For privacy and security, I use Tails. https://tails.boum.org/
> > 
> > Roy
> > 
> > Using Kubuntu 11.10, 64-bit
> > Location: Canada
> 
> Where are you getting these numbers from? Ubuntu being the top desktop and 
> all that. First off the desktop is the last place Linux focuses. So what if 
> they even are? Big whoop! Rock that 0.7% market share.
> 
> Debian isn't popular because of their politics. But open source is pretty 
> political, so I don't fault them for having principals.
> 
> I know what Raspberry Pi is. No need to Google there. Look hard enough and 
> you should see some of my posts on their site from some time ago. That is if 
> you can get on their site now. Yeah it was so long ago their website actually 
> worked when I posted.
> 
> As far as Ubuntu not being interested in a fringe project like PI I can't say 
> as I blame them. Runs of 10,000 units are peanuts.
> 
> 
> Ubuntu is a project of Canonical and that is a commercial company. Why would 
> they want to throw resources after a charity project like PI? Do they need a 
> tax write off? I'd think Ubuntu would already be supplying them with one of 
> those.
>




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