Thanks Paul - I took my computer into a local shop for a look-see. He noted 
some missing drivers and tried to upload a new driver. When he got busier and 
we couldn't easily upload the new driver, I left his shop so he could work with 
his paying costumers.

Rob did tell me that he had luck with another distro, too. So I can try that, I 
guess. Maybe I can get one to work. I agree, a working system is a whole 
different ballgame. 

Thanks and I will keep on trying.

Jim in Ohio

--- In [email protected], "Paul" <pfrederick1@...> wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In [email protected], "Jim" <jverhovec@> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for the response.
> > 
> > Yes - I plugged an Ethernet directly into the computer from a router. I 
> > recycled the computer more than once. In my terminal, I used /sbin/ifconfig:
> > 
> > jim@jim-laptop:~$ sudo /sbin/ifconfig 
> > [sudo] password for jim: 
> > lo        Link encap:Local Loopback  
> >           inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0 
> >           inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host 
> >           UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1 
> >           RX packets:8 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 
> >           TX packets:8 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 
> >           collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 
> >           RX bytes:480 (480.0 B)  TX bytes:480 (480.0 B) 
> > 
> > jim@jim-laptop:~$ netstat -nr 
> > Kernel IP routing table 
> > Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags   MSS Window  irtt 
> > Iface 
> > 
> > I don't know if this may help.
> 
> It shows you do not have an eth0 interface. Without that network interface 
> you of course have no gateway access point to the Internet either.
> 
> Like others have pointed out in the thread you have to get the driver for 
> your hardware and load it before you can bring your network interface up.
> 
> Everything I've read about that Ethernet Controller suggests you should have 
> the driver now. A couple of years ago you would have had to go out and get it 
> special but now I think it is included?
> 
> I could swear when I ran a live image of Fedora 17 on an Acer laptop here it 
> just worked. That laptop is out for unrelated hardware repairs now so I 
> cannot verify it again though. I think the HDD died in it. Being as 
> networking just worked in it I didn't look too closely at what it had. When I 
> get that system back I will now though.
> 
> Maybe you can get Roy to tell you what the module name is and you can try to 
> manually load it?
> 
> I know how frustrating solving these problems can be but look on the bright 
> side, by the time you've figured it out you'll have learned so much you'll be 
> an expert! Knowing about modules and basic networking comes in handy.
> 
> BTW one valid troubleshooting technique in Linux is to load up another 
> distribution where stuff just works, see how and why it works, then use that 
> information to make a broken distribution work. When hardware works you can 
> see what the module name being used is etc. UNCLAIMED isn't very helpful. But 
> seeing stuff working can be very enlightening when it comes to 
> troubleshooting. Oh, so that is how it is supposed to work. As opposed to why 
> doesn't it work?
> 
> Of course doing that can have the side effect of changing distributions. So 
> be careful :)
>




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