Dont get me wrong about my opinions and comments expressed in previous post... I am abbalutely a Linux lover and have been for a few years now and contribute. What always impresses me about every Linux distro is that it runs as fast or faster than a brand new windoze pc - which after time just slows and slower particularly on start up. Linux runs that fast always from day one no matter what you install extra.
Debian is rock hard solid and stable but Ubuntu with Mark Shuttleworth seem to have really put Linux on the map so to speak - especially attracting windows users to add a Linux puter or add a dual boot on existing pC or simply wipe a PC and install Linux. Some really nice distros have passed but that is happening now with all time favorite XP for windows. Nothing lasts forever except the newest system. By the way Trend Micro was an original that released Linux antivirus I am sure with antispyware. I do not believe that has remained, but was discontinued some time ago. gerald philly pa usa http://linuxducks.free-forums.org/index.php (Information station, good browse) -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [LINUX_Newbies] Re: New Hand of Thief trojan does Linux but not windows! Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2013 08:07:24 -0400 From: G.LinuxDucks <[email protected]> To: [email protected] I dont know about free AVG but had terrible problems with that. I do know ESET NOD32 for Linux is antimalware - both antivirus + antispyware - and is paid yearly subscription. I have used that and it is the creme of the crop as on Windows. This is the company with the most independent labs awards (VB100) that has almost twice as many as the rest as Symantec and Sophos (about neck and neck) . This actually showed some hits that were blocked over the browser here and there (just a couple over a months time) online that was surprising. .... ESET NOD32 Antivirus 4 for Linux http://www.eset.com/us/home/products/nod32-for-linux/ Also there is Panda for Linux, antivirus + antispyware, which is also a well known quality product for Windows... Panda DesktopSecure for Linux Simple and complete protection for your Linux computer http://www.pandasecurity.com/japan/homeusers/solutions/desktopsecure/ IN ADVANCE.... I would guesstimate perhaps up to 80 percent maybe of Linux users will be rolling on the floor laughing at someone going to spend $30-40 (USD us dollars) a year for Linux antimalware. You would here a list of free stuff out there, free stand alone scanners with no protection but can remove viruses, and in the same breath saying you will never need it because Linux is impervious to malware - cant get infected. I would say we also heard this about Apple/Mac - same spiel but no antivirus products - some millions and millions of infections ago. I do say now in todays world to NEVER operate ANY computer without a minimum of an antivirus product installed. I do say to the Linux diehards against antimalware saying Linux will never get infected that existing free anti-rootkit scanners are really poor if working at all. Many claim Linux as the safest in the world which is simply a complete fantasy and fabrication whether intentional or without knowledge. Windows Vista is the first operating system that did not allow viruses to write to the disk (just internet temporary files and erased closing the browser) and was found that it did not allow ANY rootkits to run on it. Windows Vista beat ALL anti-rootkit products in the world and this is imperical data. .... Vistas Despised UAC Nails Rootkits, Tests Find Rootkits unable to run on Windows Vista ! http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/146256/vistas_despised_uac_nails_rootkits_tests_find.html After turning off UAC User Account Control, they were only able to even get four rootkits to attempt to run on Vista. I called it the security software crown of the decade of all the security industry. Malware was unable to run on Windows Vista with UAC. THIS is what old diehards say about Linux which is simply fantasy. Rootkits can run on Linux and granted very limited other threats. So it is PROVEN Windows Vista was the safest operating system in the world beating Linux. Vista with UAC is very much like the safe Linux system already, and I ponder if Micro$oft didnt steal something, hmmm. ... Anyhooo... it will become opinion across the board and the www as is happening as we speak, that Linux is going the way of Apple/Mac with possible/probable infection. They can rant at windoze all they want but when it comes to actual experience in handling malware and corporate level blended threats and Denial of Service Attacks and the great botnet plague and etc etc etc - it is Windows and Windows Users who have all the experience. In other words for Apple/Mac and Linux - it is like they are in their infancy and first days of even discovering malware in their system as was Windows so many, many years ago. Naturally they are talented enough to cope as was Microsoft. There will be those first awkward days of real horrendous hammering of the system by cybercriminals when they are overwhelmed but will bounce back quickly patching and hard coding what is needed. In short, a lot of trial and error type occurs in the beginning of attacks as unknown attacks, threats etc. I have been delving into Linux security wise, tinkering for a couple of years now. It irks me about any system that does not allow you into areas. We (in security) all know it is simply a matter of time before crimeware will circumvent areas, but if the user can not access to seek and discover - well what? How will the user really ever know if there is for instance a spyware package or other malware as some virus or rootkit present? Currently tinkering with AppArmor to lock down Firefox. Can not get it to accept value 1. But on Windows being in security since 2005 with actually discovery in the industry (malware RASautodial registry keys) on Linux I have to say I am only an intermediate user at best. Working though, working towards becoming an advanced user! Compared to Linux, windows was a piece of cake to learn security-wise. BOTTOM LINE... I think $30-40 USD a year is a very, very, very small price to pay to sit back and relax and enjoy my Linux never worrying about malware. That simple. That cheap. That real. I naturally recommend ESET for Linux as tops and you can even use it free - fully working - for 30 days to see if you like it or not. TIP: If you indeed buy one of these products for Linux, I recommend making a back up copy of the installer package AND your license number. If a disaster occurs and you would need to reinstall Linux (meaning like some mess up other than malware) you will have to have the license number to reinstall the product or most likely would have to purchase a new copy. Quite frankly I have would not spend $40 on any Linux distro except a couple that are actually stable has been my experience. Debian of course is at the top of the list and worthy of that investment. I am currently running Xubuntu newly now this month and seems pretty stable. Windows you can bounce around like a basketball and it will always start back up fixing itself and especially Vista which introduced the self-healing technology. I have not found that true with many Linux distros. Simply lost all and had to reinstall. I caught a lot of flack in the past but that was first impressions about Linux - way too unstable and unsophisticated. Windows was the ONLY operating system that is Unix Certified meaning secure and stable. Linux and Apple/Mac only achieved Unix-Like Certification as somewhat insecure and somewhat unstable. Now THAT is imperical data as well. So being informed and knowledgeable - well I back up what I say with proof. I am not making newbie novice rants and raves and opinions. And I say to that line that jumps down your throat at the first mention of antivirus for Linux to simply shut up and stop lying to the public and start being a contributor to the safe and secure community of computer users with intelligent knowledgeable communications. THAT will earn you respect. I use to say it is my soap box and I will say what I want on it. Never nuff said in security. gerald philly pa usa Happy Hunting! Home http://linuxducks.webs.com/ My Windows Side.... -- SENDER: gerald309 Webmaster: Malware Removal/Amateur Forensics HOME http://bluecollarpc.us/ Alternate https://sites.google.com/site/pcsecurityhelper/ Free Malware Removal Help / A Community Website Since 2005 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ On 8/11/2013 9:37 PM, Joe PM wrote: -I installed Comodo antivirus free, their a good company, it is a good choice. The free version does not seem to have malware protection. 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