On Saturday 14 October 2006 19:12, Rony wrote:

> Hmm. So in reality, he did not earn any money from the sales of the
> wonderful piece of software he created for the world, while
> everyone down the line is making mega bucks installing, customizing
> and maintaining his software. If the same was sponsored by a big
> foss supporting institution he would have made money on the
> software too.

He CAN make hughe amounts of money if he wishes to. And is pretty well 
off otherwise. He could be making big money from investing in foss 
companies for all u know, and hence does not need to work - or more 
appropriately toil - for money.

> Whatever other benefits he received would have come his way even if
> he made world famous closed software. 

Really? how do u know. The vast majority of microserfs barely exist as 
compared to most of the free developers, who besides doing what they 
love and being failrly well off, get invited to all sorts of seminars 
and conferences at exotic places.

> I am not trying to pull down foss

 U can try, but it wont make one whit of a diff - ask Bill baba who 
funded SCO to attack linux and some other idiot who attacked Linus.
 
> but my point is that since it is for the people, it needs 
> support from large independent foss promoting institutions that pay
> good money to developers such that they can release their software
> under their own banner.

Umm.. if one were in that class u could easily get a couple of million 
from the venture capitalists, large corps like IBM, Google, RH, 
Novell, AMD, TYAN yakyakyak and that goes for the closed or open 
version. Computer associates (and afaik also SAP) released their 
database under the gpl. Why?. CA then ran a competition 1million USD 
for the best app on Ingres. Why?

There is a major disconnect in your logic. U very illogically believe 
that closing an app protects your market. Closing your app puts an 
enormous burden from every side - marketing, development, 
maintainence, etc - while giving absolutely nothing in return. Tally 
is closed right? just count the number of legal copies v/s illegal 
copies around. It's 15 is to one in my vicinity - the one legal copy 
is mine circa 1995 and a free (fight) upgrade in 98. U think the 
legal copies were purchased because they were closed? In fact i found 
that stupid parallel port dongle such a pain in the ass that i 
cracked it in a couple of hours, wrote (rather copied from stevens) a 
small tsr that bypassed the dongle. And i neednt have bothered. The 
floppies were available for Rs.50/-. So what did closing achieve? 
beats my poor IQ.

In developing a closed app u incurr a cost wholly unneccessary, then 
try to build a business to recoup the cost and find the marketing 
logistics to be un manageable, then start blaming all the copyright 
violators for the unrenumerative business, then spend even more money 
on dongles which u imagine would make software thieves disappear, On 
the contrary u make them richer, while reducuing your margin. 

U need to think completely differently on whatever it is U have in 
mind. But rest assured that closing ANY app does not make one whit of 
a diff to the final success or failure. Even when very tightly 
coupled with hardware (Xbox, Sony PS, Cisco AP,). All u do is prevent 
yourself from recieving code, ideas and new market penetration, while 
increasing your costs and enriching the crooks.

As i said earlier i knew personally many people who wrote state of the 
art closed packages - with dongle and all - that ran the pants off 
imported equiv costing 10 times more almost all failed.

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Rgds
JTD

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