On Mon, 2007-07-30 at 17:54 +0200, Shakthi Kannan wrote:
> Most Indian (students) in India, whom I have met have this notion that
> they don't want to speak in English because their grammar is bad, they
> are not "confident" of speaking, and that if they speak broken
> English, people will laugh at them or not accept what they say. But,

Maybe the case in rest of India but I've not observed that in the metros
- well, atleast in Mumbai or Delhi.

> Most students tease others in college if you speak English, with
> "Peter", "born abroad" jokes etc. But, because they are disconnected
> from the real world, and the Industry, they don't realise the facts.

There is no need of mentioning such behavior. It just shows the serious
lack of maturity.

> Put freshers from a college to a group discussion in English, they
> will never open their mouth.

Hehe.

> If you've attended FOSS conferences/user-group meet-ups in India,
> (from what I have observed) most speakers don't care about grammar, as
> long as they can express themselves.

Hmm...touchy subject. But good English and good grammar give a GOOD
experience for the audience. They dont need to spend tremendous amount
of time to /understand/ what the speaker is saying if he/she can speak
decent English. I'm not talking about Queen's English or Yankee talk.
Just plain old clear English.

> They don't see it as a limitation
> in conveying their thoughts, which is important, and that is the
> message we want to put across.

Well they couldnt be more wrong. Language is THE carrier of knowledge. I
guess these same people would be up in arms if I dont make a valid
XHTML / HTML 4.01 standards compliant page or write a valid CSS. If you
care about broken lingo in the computer world then you better care for
the broken lingo in the real world. 

> We accept that your English is not perfect, but, we don't want you to
> think of it as a limitation for you to come forward and openly share
> your doubts/questions in mailing lists/IRC/forums/meet-ups.

Look, nobody is perfect - granted. But atleast half decent? Come on
these people are atleast 15-20 year olds. I'm not a convent educated but
I can speak fluent English and get my ideas across effectively!

-- 
Regards,

Dinesh A. Joshi


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