2008/12/20 Dinesh Joshi <dinesh.a.jo...@gmail.com>:
> So what you're saying is basically the SAME that I've said. Debian is
> BEHIND Ubuntu in terms of including the most bleeding edged software.
> SO theres a good chance that Ubuntu will support your hardware out of
> the box and Debian wont. HENCE, Etch is a stupid choice for someone to
> install because his hardware isn't supported because Etch is ANCIENT.
You have no clue how debian release process works or how software
comes to unstable. So before starting bashing someone, I hope you will
do some reading.
When the testing is frozen only those packages which is expected to be
released with the next stable release are added to unstable. If you
cannot include a new version you can add it to experimental.
The case of testing freeze is an exception to how normally unstable works.
>
> Another end user example of how Debian is lagging behind Ubuntu and
> hence my point stands, Debian Sid installs gnome 2.22.3 while
> gnome-panel is stuck at 2.20.?? in the unstable repository. So, to get
> the shiny new "world clock" in the gnome-panel one has to dig through
> the experimental repository. This "feature" was available in Ubuntu
> around 8.04 or even before that.
You can continue to stick with your point, but I suggest you read
about debian release process and what testing freeze means to packages
in unstable. It is OK to be ignorant, but if some one go around
shouting blunders, then the issue becomes different.
The reason why you don't see new packages in sid right now is because
it lenny is frozen.
"A new version may only contain changes falling in one of the
following categories (compared to the version in testing):
- fixes for release critical bugs (i.e., bugs of severity critical,
grave, and serious) in all packages;
- changes for release goals, if they are not invasive;
- fixes for severity: important bugs in packages of priority: optional
or extra, only when this can be done via unstable;
- translation updates
- documentation fixes
"
http://release.debian.org/emails/release-update-200808
And when the stable release is out there is not such restrictions and
packages hit sid even just after hours of the upstream release. If you
had done some background reading than screaming 2.6.27 is not
available in sid and hence sid must be older than ubuntu should not
have happened.
Nobody is perfect dude. Please learn to respect others. I had to
change my tone because you kept on ridiculing a new debian user.
- Praveen
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