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* LUG Meet on 2nd Feb. @ Ruparel College
*
******************************************Hi all,
  My name is Prashant Parab and a new member of this group. For last few
days I am reading the postings regarding meeting at ruparel college. Will u
kindly tell me what these meetings are all about?

Thanx and regards,

Prashant

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>    1. Re: 2 minor problems after kernel recompilation.. (Apurva Mehta)
>    2. Re: 2 minor problems after kernel recompilation.. (Pankaj Jangid)
>    3. Re: 2 minor problems after kernel recompilation.. (Philip S Tellis)
>    4. Re: Venue for the Meeting on 2nd (Philip S Tellis)
>    5. re:cable modem (Girish Hanchate)
>    6. Re: When is the meeting? (quasi)
>    7. Re: 2 minor problems after kernel recompilation.. (Apurva Mehta)
>    8. Re: When is the meeting? (Philip S Tellis)
>    9. Re: When is the meeting? (Amish Munshi)
>   10. Re: 2 minor problems after kernel recompilation.. (Apurva Mehta)
>   11. Re: 2 minor problems after kernel recompilation.. (Saswata Banerjee
& Associates)
>   12. Re: 2 minor problems after kernel recompilation.. (Pankaj Jangid)
>   13. Re: 2 minor problems after kernel recompilation.. (Bhargav Bhatt)
>   14. Re: 2 minor problems after kernel recompilation.. (Philip S Tellis)
>   15. (no subject) (kavita modi)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 20:09:55 +0530
> From: Apurva Mehta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] 2 minor problems after kernel recompilation..
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> On 28 Jan 2003 19:38:17 +0530
> Pankaj Jangid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > This last parameter (CONFIG_APM_REAL_POWER_OFF=y) should be set to
> > 'y'.
>
> Thanks, I will try that out..
>
> > Audio CD's can't be mounted.
>
> Are you sure about that? I am sure that I could mount and rip audio cd's
> when using the default 2.4.7-10 kernel. Now, grip does not even detect
> the cd.
>
> > This is my personal opinion. I think if you are not adding modules
> > frequently for new hardware you should make it a single a.out binary.
> > Because it doesn't make much difference in size. Also this strategy
> > will save time which is taken while loading on demand.
>
> I feel the same way, but since I am relatively new at this, I thought it
> would be wiser to ask..
>
> PS: where can I get your PGP public key?
>
> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>
> Apurva Mehta
>
> PGP Public Key:
> http://www.geocities.com/theprancinghorse/pgp_public_key.txt
>
> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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> Message: 2
> Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] 2 minor problems after kernel recompilation..
> From: Pankaj Jangid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: 28 Jan 2003 21:04:43 +0530
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> On Tue, 2003-01-28 at 20:09, Apurva Mehta wrote:
> > Are you sure about that? I am sure that I could mount and rip audio cd's
> > when using the default 2.4.7-10 kernel. Now, grip does not even detect
> > the cd.
> >=20
> >
> I use ripperx and I don't mount audio CD. If you are saying that you
> have mounted earliar then there must be a filesystem type which was
> earlier compiled with your kernel but now its not.
> =20
> > PS: where can I get your PGP public key?
> >=20
> http://yuga.ncst.ernet.in/~pankaj/gpg.txt
> >=20
> > http://www.geocities.com/theprancinghorse/pgp_public_key.txt
> >=20
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> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 10:12:11 +0530 (IST)
> From: Philip S Tellis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: ilug-bom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] 2 minor problems after kernel recompilation..
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> On Tue, 28 Jan 2003, Apurva Mehta wrote:
>
> > 1) My system does not turn off automatically after issuing the powerdown
> > command.. I have to turn it of manually. Earlier, with the RH 7.2
> > default kernel (2.4.7-10), the power would switch off automatically.
> > Here are the how the relevant variables are set :
> > CONFIG_PM=y
> > CONFIG_APM=m
>
> you have apm compiled as a module.  in order for the system to switch
> off, you'll have to have the apm module loaded at powerdown time.
>
> I'm not quite sure of the best way to do this, but maybe changing
> powerdown to a script that first calls /sbin/modprobe apm will work.
>
> The other alternative is to compile APM into your kernel.
>
> > 2) I cannot mount audio cd's anymore. I can play them through gtcd, I
>
> anymore?  you mean you could mount them before?
>
> > just cannot rip them.. The mount command tells me that I got a bad fs
>
> audio cds don't have a file system - hence you cannot mount them.  one
> doesn't mount drives, one mounts file systems that happen to be on those
> drives.
>
> > Also, what is a good strategy to follow while compiling a kernel? Is
> > it better to make as many modules as possible or the other way round?
>
> if there's something that's going to be needed all the time, it makes
> sense to compile it into the kernel.  if there's something that's needed
> to boot up the sytem - it has to be in the kernel.
>
> these would include your hard disk driver, your file system driver and
> the binary executable driver - for most people this would be ide,
> ext2/ext3 and elf binaries.  everything else can be compiled as a
> module, but see the help for each module for specific issues.
>
> > Are there any particular features which would be better off as part of
> > the kernel image rather than as modules? Currently, I have compiled
>
> put unix domain sockets into your kernel.  it's needed to run syslog -
> which is run at startup.  if you don't compile it into the kernel, then
> when syslog tries to write to the log, the kernel will have to log a
> message saying that it could not find unix.o.  To log this message, it
> needs unix.o.  This will cause a loop, which will eventually be
> terminated, but why even bother with it...
>
> --
> Williams and Holland's Law:
> If enough data is collected, anything may be proven by statistical
> methods.
>
>
>
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>
> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 10:13:42 +0530 (IST)
> From: Philip S Tellis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] Venue for the Meeting on 2nd
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> On Tue, 28 Jan 2003, Nagarjuna G. wrote:
>
> > The venue for the meet has been fixed at Ruparel College.  A formal
>
> [snip]
>
> > The meeting starts at 3pm at Ruparel College.
>
> which room?
>
> --
> Boob's Law:
> You always find something in the last place you look.
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 21:02:59 -0800 (PST)
> From: Girish Hanchate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [ILUG-BOM] re:cable modem
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Hi
>
> Stop RIP service & just chk weather r getting same
> internet usage from linux.
>
> rgds
> girish
>
>
> Hi all
> I use cable modem for my mail seerver on linux Rh 7.0.
> setup uses squid ,sendmail ,fetchmail and ipchains
> and RIP.
> Now question is when i use WinXP For internet sharing
> only then my internet usage go up to 400MB and when
> same is replaced by above setup then it goes to 1 gb
> WHY so much of  difference ? and let me know how to
> reduce this on linux ,all other services on linux r
> stopped . Wht do i do and is squid the reason?
> please mail me if possible...
> bye thnx in advance.
>
>
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>
> Message: 6
> Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] When is the meeting?
> From: quasi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: 24 Jan 2003 16:37:46 +0530
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> On Fri, 2003-01-24 at 01:07, Satya wrote:
> > On Jan 23, 2003 at 13:42, Amish Munshi wrote:
> >
> > > The meeting is on 2nd Feb, Ruparel College at 4:00 pm.
> >
> > Where in Ruparel?
>
> Get down at Matunga Road. Stn. on the WR (station is next to Dadar in
> the Northen direction).  Get out on the western side.  Ask someone...
> anyone.  Walk 3-5 minutes.  Lo, behold - Ruparel!!
>
> --
> quasi
>
> Utopia Unlimited!
>
>
>
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>
> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 20:11:05 +0530
> From: Apurva Mehta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] 2 minor problems after kernel recompilation..
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
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> On Wed, 29 Jan 2003 10:12:11 +0530 (IST)
> Philip S Tellis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > you have apm compiled as a module.  in order for the system to switch
> > off, you'll have to have the apm module loaded at powerdown time.
> >
> > I'm not quite sure of the best way to do this, but maybe changing
> > powerdown to a script that first calls /sbin/modprobe apm will work.
> >
> > The other alternative is to compile APM into your kernel.
>
> I tried executing /sbin/modprobe apm first and then poweroff from the
> command line. I did not work.
> Then I tried loading the apm module, loading the apm daemon and then
> executing the poweroff command. The system stopped responding after the
> message :
> Shutting down APM daemon .. [OK]
>
> I had to do a cold poweroff..
>
> > anymore?  you mean you could mount them before?
>
> Yes, I could most definitely mount them before. Even my friend can mount
> them right now on his 2.4.20 kernel. After mounting he can list the
> contents of the cd (ie.. ls gives the output track1.cda etc..).
>
> Also, as I mentioned previously, I could rip cd's which grip, but now it
> does not detect the cd's presence in the drive.
>
> > if there's something that's going to be needed all the time, it makes
> > sense to compile it into the kernel.  if there's something that's
> > needed to boot up the sytem - it has to be in the kernel.
> >
> > these would include your hard disk driver, your file system driver and
> >
> > the binary executable driver - for most people this would be ide,
> > ext2/ext3 and elf binaries.  everything else can be compiled as a
> > module, but see the help for each module for specific issues.
>
> I have compiled a kernel with as few features as possible and most of
> the selected features are part of the image itself. I have left very few
> features (like national language support etc.. as modules. )
>
> > put unix domain sockets into your kernel.  it's needed to run syslog -
> >
> > which is run at startup.  if you don't compile it into the kernel,
> > then when syslog tries to write to the log, the kernel will have to
> > log a message saying that it could not find unix.o.  To log this
> > message, it needs unix.o.  This will cause a loop, which will
> > eventually be terminated, but why even bother with it...
>
> That is already part of my kernel..
>
> Thanks for your time..
>
> Regards,
> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>
> Apurva Mehta
>
> PGP Public Key:
> http://www.geocities.com/theprancinghorse/pgp_public_key.txt
>
> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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> Message: 8
> Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 20:57:06 +0530 (IST)
> From: Philip S Tellis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] When is the meeting?
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> On 24 Jan 2003, quasi wrote:
>
> > > Where in Ruparel?
> >
> > Get down at Matunga Road. Stn. on the WR (station is next to Dadar in
> > the Northen direction).  Get out on the western side.  Ask someone...
> > anyone.  Walk 3-5 minutes.  Lo, behold - Ruparel!!
>
> dude.  you really have to stop working so much.  maybe even get a pair
> of glasses...  a TTS may not be a bad idea either.
>
> Philip
>
> --
> There is no distinctly native American criminal class except Congress.
> -- Mark Twain
>
>
>
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>
> Message: 9
> Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 21:17:42 +0530
> From: Amish Munshi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] When is the meeting?
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> On Fri, Jan 24, 2003 at 04:37:46PM +0530, quasi wrote:
> > >
> > > Where in Ruparel?
>
>
> Please wait for a few days, the location withing Ruparel is not yet
> fixed.
>
>
>
> >
> > Get down at Matunga Road. Stn. on the WR (station is next to Dadar in
> > the Northen direction).  Get out on the western side.  Ask someone...
> > anyone.  Walk 3-5 minutes.  Lo, behold - Ruparel!!
> >
> > --
> > quasi
> >
> > Utopia Unlimited!
> >
> >
> > --
> > _______________________________________________
> >
> > http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> Amish K. Munshi
> In GNU we trust.
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 21:13:13 +0530
> From: Apurva Mehta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] 2 minor problems after kernel recompilation..
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
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> Hi everyone,
> I am really sorry but I originally posted incorrect information about my
> problem here. I said that I could mount audio cd's at one point in time
> and that my
> friend can still do so now.
>
> You'll doubted this, and your doubts have proven true. I cannot mount
> audio cd's and don't think I ever could. I just realized that while
> doing something totally unrelated. What can I say? I feel like a
> complete idiot :)
>
> However,  grip still does not work, although now it atleast reads the cd
> contents (there was something wrong with my config file). It does not
> rip.
>
> Regards,
> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>
> Apurva Mehta
>
> PGP Public Key:
> http://www.geocities.com/theprancinghorse/pgp_public_key.txt
>
> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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>
> Message: 11
> From: "Saswata Banerjee & Associates" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] 2 minor problems after kernel recompilation..
> Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 09:41:56 +0530
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Hi Apurva
>
> I keep getting emails from you on the group as text file attachments
instead
> of normal text. This makes it difficult to read since I first need to open
> or save the attachment. Would appreciate if you can change your settings
so
> that the email comes as normal text message.
>
> FYI, I am using Outlook Express on WinXP
>
> Regards
> Saswata
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Apurva Mehta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 8:11 PM
> Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] 2 minor problems after kernel recompilation..
>
>
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 12
> Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] 2 minor problems after kernel recompilation..
> From: Pankaj Jangid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Organization: National Centre for Software Technology
> Date: 30 Jan 2003 10:20:55 +0530
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>
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> On Thu, 2003-01-30 at 09:41, Saswata Banerjee & Associates wrote:
> > Hi Apurva
> >=20
> > I keep getting emails from you on the group as text file attachments
inst=
> ead
> > of normal text. This makes it difficult to read since I first need to
ope=
> n
> > or save the attachment. Would appreciate if you can change your settings
=
> so
> > that the email comes as normal text message.
> >=20
> > FYI, I am using Outlook Express on WinXP
> >=20
> Obviously you will face problems. Outlook use either old header formats
> or MS has there own standards for mail format.
>
> I think all of us are getting mails properly. I also realized this
> problem when I was using mutt and my friend was using Outlook.
> --=20
> Pankaj Jangid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> National Centre for Software Technology
>
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>
> Message: 13
> Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 01:13:16 -0500
> From: Bhargav Bhatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] 2 minor problems after kernel recompilation..
> Organization: Columbia University
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 30, 2003 at 09:41:56AM +0530, Saswata Banerjee & Associates
wrote:
>
> > I keep getting emails from you on the group as text file attachments
instead
> > of normal text. This makes it difficult to read since I first need to
open
> > or save the attachment. Would appreciate if you can change your settings
so
> > that the email comes as normal text message.
> I suspect you are having this problem with anyone who mails using
pgp-signed
> messages. I know because I used to have the same problems with OE. Also,
did
> we not already cover this once on the list in the recent past? (I might be
> wrong)
>
> --
> Bhargav Bhatt,
> Department of Applied Physics and Applied Mathematics,
> Columbia University.
> --
> http://www.bhargav.com
> --
> Sex and drugs? They're nothing compared with a good proof!
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 14
> Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 11:49:29 +0530 (IST)
> From: Philip S Tellis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] 2 minor problems after kernel recompilation..
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> On Thu, 30 Jan 2003, Saswata Banerjee & Associates wrote:
>
> > I keep getting emails from you on the group as text file attachments
> > instead of normal text. This makes it difficult to read since I first
>
> He's sending his messages with a PGP signature.  This is a Good Thing.
> IMO, any mail client that can't handle that is a mail client that needs
> to be replaced.
>
> Philip
>
> --
> You will inherit some money or a small piece of land.
>
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 15
> From: "kavita modi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: "ILUG-BOM" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 11:58:16 +0530
> Subject: [ILUG-BOM] (no subject)
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Hello All,
>
> I m using COMPAQ's DL320 server.'ve installed RHL7.2 with
> apache1.3.26,php4.2.2,freetds0.53 and Oracle8i.
> Php4.2.2 is installed for odbc,oracle,mysql,postgres,apache.
> But server has one problem.When m/c get rebooted after some days uptime,it
> doesnot bring eth0 up by stating that other host is having same ip.
> so,i have to change ip in eth0's ifconfig file.then only it comes up on
> network.
> so,what cud be the problem???
> i think there's something wrong with NIC.bad NIC which doesnot release ip.
> or some network drivers problem??
>
> Any suggestions are apprecitated.
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Rgds,
> kavita
>
>
>
>
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> _______________________________________________
>
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>
>
>
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