looking at posts from the last few days, it seems that there is no more quality left in this list.
We have people asking the list for jobs (many have been rejected before reaching the list). We have people searching for other people. To both kinds of people, there are sections in your local newspaper that deal with this. Unfortunately, we will always have people who post without subject lines, or subject lines that says "Help" and those who ask the list to unsubscribe them. To those who post asking for a job: The lug has a lot of work if you want it. The website needs to be maintained, meetings need to be arranged, workshops need to be arranged, a lot of promotion and advocacy has to be done. Are you interested? You will not be paid for this ... ever. For programming jobs, there is also a lot of Free software that needs to be developed. You will find projects on sourceforge, savannah and freshmeat. You will probably not get paid for this either. To those who want information urgently - pay for commercial support. To those who complain that no one has responded to their mail - have patience and maybe rethink your posting strategy. To those who post without a subject - To those who want help - try one of the following: http://www.helmeharlan.com http://www.helpmefind.com http://www.helpme2learn.com http://www.helpmelaw.com To those who want to unsubscribe, the address is [EMAIL PROTECTED] The list software does not understand natural language. Do not say please unsubscribe me. Follow the instructions that you received when you subscribed. If you deleted those instructions, bad on you. To those who ask for sample source code - this list is not to be used for doing your homework. If you need sample code to learn from - the web has Terabytes of it. It is better for you to search for it rather than ask the members of this list to search for you. To those who are unaware of all the programs installed on their system... how can you install something without knowing what you're installing? There's hope yet. Get a list of all programs in /bin, /usr/bin, /usr/local/bin, /sbin and /usr/sbin and read the man pages for them. Read the man pages for whatever is mentioned in the See Also section of any other man page. Here's a tip. If a man page says something like foo(8), it means you have to do man 8 foo. If there is no man page, command --help often works. If it doesn't, run the program and see what happens :D. Don't do this as root. In fact, maybe create a temporary account and do it in there (I wouldn't). Finally, before you post, and I repeat, *before*. Search the web, search your hard disk, search the archives. Do everything possible to find your answer without posting. Only if you don't find a solution should you post to the list. If, OTOH, you find a solution, but had a really hard time finding it, *and* it was not listed in the list archives, then feel free to post the solution to the list. Finally, don't ask for help on Linux 8.0. No one has it... yet. Philip -- Did you hear that two rabbits escaped from the zoo and so far they have only recaptured 116 of them? -- http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers
