On 26/06/05 02:48 -0700, Trevor Warren wrote:
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> > In fact i have stopped talking price with customers
> > (i collect 
> > the M$ tax u see) and focus on a zillion other
> > things which shreds 
> > everything that billy baba and 2000xp chors can
> > throw.
> [snip]
> 
>   No worries JTD, as long as we have IIM babus running
> commercial organisations like those at redmond such
> reports are bound to surface.
> 
>   Infact, the report did give me a lot to ponder. You
> know terence, managing networks with 500-1000 nodes
> with MS can be a real nightmare especially when
> patching the machines on a daily basis is more of a
> norm. MS has an architecture in place seamless across
> distributions to push these patches across the entire
> enterprise. How much of this works....you know better.
> 
>   With FLOSS in a network as big as the one consisting
> of 1000+ nodes you will realise that management-patch
> scheduling-upgrades are the most significant part of
> the TCO. This in effect drives the need to acquire
> systems that the average "techie" can deal with.
> 
Solved problems. http://www.infrastructures.org/
http://www.google.com/search?q=radmind+download
http://www.google.com/search?q=cfengine+download


>   Mind my word *average techie* jtd. Do remember not
> all of em are as capable as you to have potato running
> on their desktops. Some of them are simple human
> beings with a diploma in computing from some NIIT
> trying to survive through a day job by supporting IT
> infra at such setups.

You only need a few good people. Leave the average techie for desktop
support.

> 
>   Having worked with numerous distros i still feel the
> need for ubiquitous patch management mechanisms is a
> must. Redhat with RHN comes close and but again isnt
> seamless across distros, dpkg and yum are other

So why do you have multiple distros in the same organisation?
Standardise!

Devdas Bhagat

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