Krishnakant wrote: > On Sun, 2009-06-21 at 17:22 +0530, Rony wrote: > >> Shakthi Kannan wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> --- On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 2:46 PM, Rony<[email protected]> wrote: >>> | A student is supposed to follow a syllabus and give answers within its >>> | limits. >>> \-- >>> >>> That is where all students have failed, IMO. >>> >>> Just passing an exam, and getting a degree does not make one an engineer. >>> >>> >> Not passing an exam and not getting a degree would also not make him an >> engineer, at least officially recognized, on paper. >> >> > Except for becoming a "sarkari babu" no one really respects degree when > it comes to real work and job. > guess what? I don't have a degree for computer engineering, yet I lead > projects and provide IT advice to organisations internationally. > But if I want a government job then I will need it. > A degree is needed even in private organisations.
>> >> The above argument is right in the philosophy of learning but not in the >> context of giving answers in exams in India, that are acceptable within >> the syllabus limitations. >> >> > Exactly. So it is about exam and not learning. > The topic of the discussion was about an exam. >> >> Here we are debating the common use of a word for 2 different acts, one >> good and one bad. Suicide or Sati as an act would be bad, irrespective >> of what word one wants to use for it. The issue here is about the >> defining word for an act, not the act itself being good or bad. We all >> agree that breaking into peoples' systems is wrong. It is just the word >> to define it that is controversial. Hacking already has so many meanings >> in different scenarios. >> >> > Right. But te issue is whether we just go by *popular* belief which is > a result of dirty propaganda all done by using money power or as good > humans make an attempt to change the meaning to the real one. > That way the analogies given about sati is right. The fundamental > question I raised was not about the concept persay, but should one > consider "what is popular is essentially right." > Nothing is fixed. Languages are constantly evolving. In languages what is popular, eventually becomes right. This goes for the bad grammar and wrong words that are used daily. > >>> There is only one definition. Hacking in the Free Software world has >>> been prevalent for decades. >>> >>> >> Everyone does not live in the free software world. >> >> > But the art of hacking is nothing to do with free software or software > itself. > > read this article. > http://stallman.org/articles/on-hacking.html > Although it is by RMS himself, it does not talk about hacking just in > context of software. > As another side note I have been to more than one event by the name > hacker dome which is a large scale event with media coverage. The > latest one was in trichur (Kerala). But I did not see any objection > from police or media about that word. > > From Stallman's article, hacking does show a naughty side, a breaking of rules, of breaking security to some extent. It is not surprising that the term hacking is now used for those who breach security. -- Regards, Rony. GNU/Linux ! No Viruses No Spyware Only Freedom. -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers
