Wolfgang, >From the AgileDB product data sheet (I can send it to you if you'd like), it is clearly a GUI front end for GDB, or any other debugger you want to use. They allow you to issue any GDB (or any tool's) command-line command from a prompt, if that's what you're familiar with. From their data sheet:
Channels and Connections ------------------------ AgileDB communicates to any number of debug devices or tools using Connections and Channels. Connections are physical connections to devices, tools or target services. Channels are logical paths across a connection. Examples of some typical tools and services you can connect to AgileDB: * The BDI 2000 ICE Command Set * The GDB Command Set * Target Serial I/O (over telnet) * Any Tool or Service that uses Telnet * Boot Agents Like: PPC/U-BOOT * User-Defined Tests and Target Services Theoretically, you're supposed to have productivity gains by using their GUI (if you invest the time to learn it, just as you've invested time to learn a CLI) over the equivalent CLI way of doing it. Their "claim to fame" is that they've solved the "window-explosion" problem that most GUI debuggers suffer from. In a particular debug session, you can put all of the things that are most important to you into a single window. I have no idea if this enhances productivity, but I know that one of the reasons that I prefer CLIs is that I spend more time opening, closing, re-sizing, and just plain fiddling with the GUI windows. If it were up to me, I'd just use the CLI. But I work for a company that has to consider the productivity of engineers whom they're paying to train. If they train them on a CLI, and their productivity is not as good as if they had trained them on a GUI, then they are not helping the company. (And I'd like to keep my job ;) -- Steven Rothweiler Raritan Computer Inc Embedded Engineer 400 Cottontail Lane mailto:stevenr at raritan.com Somerset, NJ 08873 732-764-8886 x1256 > -----Original Message----- > From: Wolfgang Denk [mailto:wd at denx.de] > Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 10:48 AM > To: Muhammad Sarwar > Cc: Steven Rothweiler; linuxppc-embedded at lists.linuxppc.org > Subject: Re: AgileDB and Abatron BDI 2000 ICE > > In message > <8529B5552D4EAA4DAEDF49650C64B2B437128C at TARPON.mangrovesystems > .com> Muhammad Sarwar wrote: > > > > Main advantage of Agile is that it integrates Abatron's commands and > > GDB debugging services. > > I have not used AgileDB yet. How does this integration work? I mean, > how much more do you get than when using GDB's "monitor" command? > > > Nice GUI for all BDI and GDB features at one place > > You can use DDD and add some custom-defined buttons. > > > Ability to move registers, structs etc to same watch window (by click > > and drag) Tools to automate some processes like loading of register > > init file, playing back command script > > I suspect this might be just using GDB features? > > > Ability to set PC, other registers etc > > Standard GDB features... > > > Ability to use the same software for debugging of user applications > > Standard GDB feature. > > > However there are some problems: > > > > Program crashes frequently, they are offering new version > of SW which > > is supposed to be more stable. Problems in setting break points. > > Problem in getting stack info display. Bug in display of struct > > info > > > > I think overall it brings good value for boot and kernel debugging. > > I'm sorry, but from what you listed I don't see any advantages... > > [But I have to admit that I've been using GDB and CLIs for some > time...] > > Best regards, > > Wolfgang Denk > > -- > Software Engineering: Embedded and Realtime Systems, Embedded Linux > Phone: (+49)-8142-4596-87 Fax: (+49)-8142-4596-88 Email: wd at denx.de > "The bad reputation UNIX has gotten is totally undeserved, laid on by > people who don't understand, who have not gotten in there and tried > anything." -- Jim Joyce, owner of Jim Joyce's UNIX Bookstore > ** Sent via the linuxppc-embedded mail list. See http://lists.linuxppc.org/
