Hi Miroslav et al,

Perhaps I am not clear about my question - just would like to understand the 
mathematical interpretation of the following for the offset and frequency 
corrections. For example, in the following output,

Frequency correction: Average frequency deviation observed is 156403 ppb with 
the maximum deviation of 7 pbb.

Offset correction: the 'rms' (root mean squre) is the mean offset of all the 
offsets in the sample observed in the interval and 'max' is the maximum 
deviation observed from the rms value.


However, you mention that 'max' for the offset is simply the maximum offset 
observed in the sample. In that case, do frequency correction and offset 
correction values differ in their definitions (with 7ns in the offset defining 
the max offset in the sample whereas 7 pbb in the frequency showing the maximum 
deviation from the mean)?


ptp4l[833.369]: rms    2 max    7 freq -156403 +/-   7 delay    28 +/-   0

Thanking you in anticipation,
Regards,
Chandra

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-----Original Message-----
From: Chandra Mallela
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 12:41 AM
To: 'Miroslav Lichvar'
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [Linuxptp-users] Interpretation of ptp4l results



Hi Miroslav,

My question is about mathematical interpretation of the output from the ptp4l 
stack. If I see the output like the one below, is it fair to assume that the 
'rms' (root mean squre) is the mean offset of all the sample offsets observed 
in the interval and 'max' is the maximum deviation observed from the rms value? 
I am likening it to kinda gaussian/normal distribution but without sign 
interpretation. Otherwise, I am fully in line with what you have mentioned 
below.

ptp4l[833.369]: rms    2 max    7 freq -156403 +/-   7 delay    28 +/-   0

Thanking you in anticipation,
Regards,
Chandra

(c) : +60.175508142
(O): +60.4.636.6412

"Knowledge speaks, Wisdom listens"



-----Original Message-----
From: Miroslav Lichvar [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 4:23 PM
To: Chandra Mallela
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Linuxptp-users] Interpretation of ptp4l results

On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 07:53:52AM +0000, Chandra Mallela wrote:
>
>
> Hi Friends,
>
> I would like to double-check whether my following interpretation is correct. 
> Please elucidate me.
>
> For the following ptp4l output, the ptp4l reports rms value and the max 
> deviation from the mean offset. Thus, if I have to report the worstcase 
> accuracy, I take the (rms+max). For example, , looking at the first line, I 
> see that the maximum offset uncertainty/inaccuracy  observed is 2 +7 = 9ns. 
> The maximum frequency uncertainty is (156403 + 7) pbb.

The max value is just the maximum measured offset in that interval. It doesn't 
mean it's also the worst accuracy of the clock. There could be an asymmetry in 
the network delay and ptp4l wouldn't know the clock is actually behind or ahead 
of the time source. To evaluate the accuracy you would to measure the error 
independendly from PTP, for example by comparing PPS signal generated by the 
synchronized clock with the reference on a scope.

--
Miroslav Lichvar

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