On Mon, 5 Mar 2007 23:38:31 -0500 (EST)
"D. Hugh Redelmeier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> dijo:

> My understanding was that the Debian way of running 32-bit stuff on a
> 64-bit machine is to create a chroot 32-bit world.  It sounds awkward.
> Perhaps things have been improved.

No, Debian does much the same as Fedora and other 64-bit distros, just
not as well. That is, a Debian distro maintains two sets of libraries.
The problem is that sometimes you can't just grab the regular 32-bit
library and put it into the 32-bit library folder. There are occasional
problems with compatibility. Also, from what you say, Debian does the
folders backwards -- 64-bit libs are in /lib and 32-bit libs are
in /lib32. In theory this shouldn't make any difference. In practice,
it sometimes does.

> Do I exploit Fedora's capability to run 32-bit stuff?  Only in a few
> cases, but some have been important.

Ditto for me in Ubuntu Edgy amd64. I have 32-bit Adobe Reader, 32-bit
RealPlayer, 32-bit Opera, and 32-bit Java. The first three I installed
with --force-architecture. The latter was in the Ubuntu amd64
repositories. 
> - for the longest time, OpenOffice only came in 32-bit form.  No
>   longer true.

I hear conflicting stories about this. The most credible story that I
have heard for Ubuntu Edgy amd64 is that OOo is 32-bit and Ubuntu wrote
ia32-lib-openoffice to make it work. 

> - I have a 32-bit firefox in which to run the Flash plugin.  But
>   almost all the time I use the 64-bit Firefox, without Flash.
>   (There are a lot of packages that depend on the 64-bit firefox
>   so I don't think that I could simply replace it with the 32-bit
>   one.)

On my Ubuntu amd64 Edgy R3240 I have had flash installed in 64-bit
Firefox, along with all the rest of the plugins that the medial kiddies
want. After a bit I took out the flash plugin because it was too
annoying. However, since Flash 32 was installed, it continued to run in
Opera. That's perfect -- Firefox is what I normally use and I don't
want Flash. If I do want to go to Youtube or someplace like that, then
I launch Opera. 
> - Mplayer needs to be 32-bit to run the 32-bit codecs.  I don't
>   actually know whether I'm using them.  Mplayer and codecs are
>   a bit of a mystery to me.

I have never gotten mplayer to work worth a damn on 64-bit
Ubuntu-anything. But I don't really care because I have no use for it.
I use Totem to view movies (works perfectly) and RealPlayer for audio
files, including web streams. I don't care to bother viewing video over
the web.

> (I run Ubuntu 6.06 on my 32-bit subnotebook.  I'll go look at Feisty.  
> What's with the name?  Should it not be Feisty 
> Something-that-begins-with-F?)

You can get it here:

http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/feisty/herd-5/

Download the torrent. I have completed the full download and am seeding
it back, so I know you will get at least one peer.
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