And one question: When will we see swtbot debug output disabled again? 8 MB of useless output always makes it really hard when someone tries to go through the warning for spotting some obvious problems that went in.
Alexander Kurtakov Red Hat Eclipse team ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Aleksandar Kurtakov" <akurt...@redhat.com> > To: "Linux Tools developer discussions" <linuxtools-dev@eclipse.org> > Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2014 10:49:14 AM > Subject: Re: [linuxtools-dev] Announcement: SWTBot tests > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Aleksandar Kurtakov" <akurt...@redhat.com> > > To: "Linux Tools developer discussions" <linuxtools-dev@eclipse.org> > > Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2014 10:48:12 AM > > Subject: Announcement: SWTBot tests > > > > I've committed a patch that ignores some of the failing tests. > > > > I beg every contributor - PLEASE DO NOT ADD MORE SWTBOT tests. > > I'm really tired of the instability of these tests. There are many problems > > with these tests like: > > * They are fragile - a widget being added/removed in other components > > breaks > > them > > * They are not real unit tests - failures are usually not in the component > > that is supposed to be under test but elsewhere. > > * They do not help shaping good API as people don't use the API that are > > exposed but do "clicks" > > * So much noise generated by swtbot tests in hudson that make the mailing > > list unusable > > * No one cares about test failures anymore and ignores them > > * ............... > > I do not mind having SWTBot tests in the codebase but they should not be > > enabled in the default build and hudson. Every test that runs by default > > must work 100% when doing "mvn clean verify". > > From now on, whenever I spot a test case failing more than twice in gerrit > > when testing unrelated patch I'll add ignore to it as it is high time to > > get > > reliable builds. I'm really getting tired of these issues. > > > > Tests that fail randomly are useless and even harmless. Period. > > Edit: > Tests that fail randomly are useless and even harmfull. Period. > > > > > > > Alexander Kurtakov > > Red Hat Eclipse team > > > > > _______________________________________________ > linuxtools-dev mailing list > linuxtools-dev@eclipse.org > To change your delivery options, retrieve your password, or unsubscribe from > this list, visit > https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxtools-dev > _______________________________________________ linuxtools-dev mailing list linuxtools-dev@eclipse.org To change your delivery options, retrieve your password, or unsubscribe from this list, visit https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxtools-dev
