I'm getting less happy with ubuntu. First of all: When the alternate CD install finally finished the network wouldn't start; the little icon kept coming up in the upper right corner of the screen, but it wouldn't start. No route. No ip# in ifconfig output. I found the network config script (it's not where RedHat-style distributions put it <wry grin>), and edited it to remove the "#" mark the install had put in front of the line setting it up for DHCP. Then I restarted the network and it still didn't work.
I tried a manual route command; it still didn't work <frown>. Finally I rebooted and then it worked <frown, again>. The broken-network icon doesn't show up anymore, which probably means everything's okay. I was able to get out through the network. So then I ran the updates the system was telling me I need to do. After that it told me to reboot (shades of Microsoft), so I did. Now the little broken network icon comes up again and when I hover the mouse over it, it tells me the network isn't managed. Whatever that means. It works; I can reach sites on the 'net. But I can't manage it? Twice the system has locked X while logging in. It still has the beige screen when it happens; it's before it loads the desktop wallpaper. Ctrl-alt-backspace doesn't work. Ctrl-alt-1 doesn't shift me to a text window... the computer reset button doesn't work, but the soft-power off switch does. More later. Jeff -- Jeff Lasman, Nobaloney Internet Services P.O. Box 52200, Riverside, CA 92517 Our jplists address used on lists is for list email only voice: +1 951 643-5345, or see: "http://www.nobaloney.net/contactus.html"