I have to agree with Mark, why not use Linux? Especially, since Mac is
just becoming the next MS any way.

Well first off in this country corporations are married to MS.  At the
Google I/O conference it was funny how the attendees from Europe were
amazed at how much companies, schools, etc. use MS.  Even when we went
to 1on1 sessions with the developers, I had to always start with the
fact that I run Ubuntu on my PC.  Linux also already has the management
systems that windows has and better security.

As for the "getting use to" it part, at many of my customers I've been
installing the FOSS equivalents of MS packages for years.  Everyone has
gotten use to it pretty quickly or never even noticed the switch.  Also,
with Ubuntu having a nice GUI to it, the barrier to entry has been
lowered to almost nothing.  BTW did anyone else notice how 10.05 has
much more of Mac feel to the navigation?  I guess we're trying to
convert some people from the dark side, LOL.

To conclude, I think Linux has just hit a cultural barrier (too many
people have their MCSE certification) because Ubuntu and Redhat have
taken care of the technical barriers for us.  As I like to tell people,
the Linux and FOSS versions of office/productivity/corporate software is
just as frustrating as the pay/proprietary versions, but at least you
didn't have to pay to be frustrated. 
-- 
John Richmond IV
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On Wed, 2010-06-02 at 08:52 -0700, Mark Holmquist wrote:
> > The one issue that I have with Mac's in the work place is the control we 
> > have with Windows AD and updates
> 
> Thus we come back to the topic of the list--why not use Linux? You've
> got plenty of control, with that.
> 
> > What I would love to see happen is Apple sell OSX, at a premium price, to 
> > be put on any computer.
> 
> They'll never do it. They like programming for their own hardware
> only, for the same reason console games are easier to write than PC
> games--if you only have to be compatible with one system, and that one
> system has really good specs, then you can write really awesome
> software that takes up lots of resources, and you'll only have to test
> it once (or for however many systems you have).
> 
> But back to the first point, I really despise companies when they
> complain about X being too slow (let X be a computer-related
> resource), and I *know* it's because of Windows or (occasionally) Mac
> OS being the stupid kid in the back row. Every single time, it gets
> more and more annoying...and Linux isn't used because "no one is used
> to it?" Please. People learn more about their jobs than that, I'm sure
> "getting used to" different-looking window-borders wouldn't take much
> time, and it's worth it to prevent hacking. And for the sysadmin who
> did manage to convince the higher-ups, he gets to submit bug reports
> to the developers when things go wrong. It seems like a win-win to me.
> The business gets more reliable and more flexible systems, and the
> community gets more bug reports from that sysadmin.
> 
> -- MarkTraceur
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