Thanks for the clarification, Daniel! Why use hard links at all? They must exist for a reason, but I have yet to encounter a need that ONLY a hard link could fill. In commercial UNIX apps I've installed I've only ever seen soft links used by the software vendor, never hard links. What am I missing here?

Thanks again, Daniel! Despite my error on hard links, I do hope DOS-MAN got something out of all I wrote on soft links, or I wasted my time.

John


Daniel Eggleston wrote:
An important point that should be made: a link is always a link, and never a copy! A hard link is not a copy. A hard link is a duplicate inode pointer, so both are "real" files. i.e.:

$ echo "foo" > fileA
$ ln fileA fileB
$ ln -s fileA fileC
$ cat file B
foo
$ echo "bar" > fileA
$ cat fileB
bar
$ cat fileC
bar
$ rm fileA
$ cat fileB
bar
$ cat fileC
*error*

The difference between a hard link and a soft link is, the soft link points to a file by name. A hard link points by inode, so after you remove the original file, it still exists with the second filename. But they're not separate copies, they're the same file!

On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 7:32 AM, Blues Renegade <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:


    I think you're making it much harder for yourself by mentally
    cross-referencing everything in Linux back to your DOS/Windows
    knowledge. You'll have a much easier time if you "forget" about
    DOS/Windows and approach Linux like a kid learning about computers
    for the first time.

    When I first got into Linux, I decided to go back to where Linux
    came from and picked up some old UNIX books where everything was
    done on the command line, they didn't even have an X-server yet,
    and to this day, most UNIX server admins run a console-system
    only, no GUI!  Most would never dream of using a GUI, seeing it as
    a headache; more programs and config files to break and wreak
    havoc on the server's stability.

    As for links, they are fairly straightforward. There are 2 kinds:
    hard links and soft links.

    A hard link is actually just a copy of a file. Personally, I have
    never used hard links. I use cp -a (-a archives a file with its
    original date/time and preserves ownership and permissions) if I
    want to duplicate files.

    A soft link is a shortcut to a file; under the covers it's nothing
    more than a pointer that contains the path to where the file exists.

    IMPORTANT! The path it stores is the text you enter when you
    create the link. The ln command does NOT try and validate your
    path. The UNIX/Linux philosophy is that commands are small
    programs with a very specific purpose. If you want/need more
    functionality, then you are expected to combine the commands using
    piping and/or redirection to get the job done. Once you learn
    enough commands and know how to combine them, the light bulb will
    go on and you'll realize the true power of UNIX (in our case, Linux).

    CREATING LINKS:

    For example, you're in your home directory and you want a quick
    way to 'cd' to a /home/dos-man/programming/c/linux/utilities.

    Here's a FLAWED WAY of creating a soft link... I'm showing you a
    pitfall first:

    ln -s ./programming/c/linux/utilities/ c-utils

    ln = link command

    -s  = soft link (shortcut, pointer, stored path, however you want
    to remember it)

    ./programming/c/linux/utilities = a relative path (relative
    reference) to the directory utilities

    The period at the beginning points to the current directory. (Not
    very exact is it?!)

    c-utils = the filename of your link (shortcut) i.e. this is what
    you'll use with cd to save typing that long path

    You're working away in /home/dos-man/programming/c/dos/ and you
    decide to go work on a linux utility, so you run:

    cd c-utils

    and surprise, it fails!

    What it does is try to cd from your current directory to your
    link's path. The cd command replaces the period in the link with
    your current directory and tries to change to the new "fangled"
    (mangled is more like it) path:

    It's as though you entered:

    cd  /home/dos-man/programming/c/dos/programming/c/linux/utilities/

    No such path exists on your system (and if by chance it does, then
    you're not where you expect to be!!).

    ****  TIP: When creating softlinks, include the complete path (AKA
    absolute reference).


    To fix the problem above, rm c-utils to remove the link you created.

    Re-create it with the complete path this time (an absolute reference).

    ln -s /home/dos-man/programming/c/linux/utilities/ c-utils

    **** TIP: It's a good idea to include the trailing slash when
    creating links to directories, so when you look at the link with
    'ls -l', you'll know it's pointing to a directory.


    Hope that helps you to start using links right away.

    BEST TIP OF ALL: Forget registries, forget Windows, forget DOS,
    and you'll have a much easier time learning Linux!! Start fresh;
    after all, UNIX came first, then MS-DOS borrowed heavily from UNIX
    and ended up as a very watered down proprietary sub-set with some
    subtle (proprietary?).

    Many of the commands in UNIX were never replicated in DOS, so they
    will be completely new to you. New concepts and ways of thinking
    to grasp. While DOS had piping and redirection, without a rich
    command set you were still very limited in comparison to UNIX.

    John


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