On 4/8/10, Chris Miller <[email protected]> wrote: > On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 7:39 AM, Bryan Smith <[email protected]> wrote: >> Kari, > > And list... :) > >> Amazon's Kindle runs Linux, BUT it was almost stifled by Microsoft >> unless they signed a big fat hairy cross licensing agreement and paid >> Microsoft $$$ to run Linux. The ipad killer is literally here already. > > BSD is just as capable an OS without the licensing issues. They're > similar enough that you could deploy BSD now, and then switch to a > Linux kernel later under the radar.
I love BSD but the license issue BSD has is that it's license allows people to take and take to no end, yet never give back. While this is fine for a manufacturer and the opportunists, it's not good for the community as a whole. > >> We have magnitudes more software available than the iphone OS can >> imagine. > > No. 33,333 packages in Debian does not mean there are literally > 33,333 bits of software for you to use. Your average tablet computer > user doesn't care about SQL, libboost, or many of the other little > bits of software that glue Linux together. > > iPhone platform has literally 100,000 actual apps for users to use. > Granted, 95,000 of them are total garbage (probably closer to 99,000 > of them) but that's still 1,000 or so fantastic apps for people to > use. No you say? It does actually mean that you are using that software if the underlying program depends on it, regardless if the users knows this(it's not a one line script, lol). I'm talking about practical applications not the countless niche apps available for the iphone. Point in case....how many deployments of iphone OS are there and how many built around embedded Linux? Availability of apps is another strong point, not having a store where everyone pays for Enterprise level apps and get the menial entertainment apps for free or cents on the dollar. > > In terms of realizing a dream of a better user experience, Apple is > far ahead of Linux. Technically Linux is more open and more capable. > Practically Apple is more advanced and more usable. Wow, practical on what planet, Pluto(no wonder it's not a planet anyhow)! How long have you been using Linux/BSD? How can a system that supports a very restricted hardware set be practically more advanced and "usable"? Do you own a mac? That kernel is so naked it's ridiculous. I own 3 Mac's and the first thing I do is install Linux, FreeBSD and OpenBSD. OSX has more vendor support, that's all, It's Unix! The differences are minimal besides that horrible kernel that has literally no hardware support outside of specific chipsets. So practically I can't hand someone an OSX disc and say install that and you'll have everything you need. > >> We just need someone to produce the thing, make nice pretty software >> packages for the consumer to click and install, restrict the gui for >> the average consumer yet allow developers and other hackers full >> access to it. If not, people will hack it and squeeze Linux on it > > Some kind of store for services to allow developers to have a means of > getting paid for their services would be nice, too. If a developer > builds a game that sends high scores to a server, it'd be nice to have > an easy unified payment system in the store to allow the user to pay > the developer for keeping that scores server running. App stores in Open Source are epic fails generally. Ever played with Linspire and their attempt to do as Apple has done. Provide a useless system that is only truly usable when you pay for packages. I believe that the community should support the projects monetarily but Open Source developers generally don't make software with the plans of the software itself making money. The services and support built around the software create the revenue, so people must have access to it for generate a need. Look at MySQL AB and the 1 Billion(1,000,000,000) dollars SUN paid for it. > >> anyway, thus the hackers create a niche buying frenzy. Why not open it >> in the first place! >> >> No one said anything about this CRAZY Amazon+Microsoft deal here in >> the lug so I figured this topic was a good segue for it. Kari, here is > > I had never heard of it before, so it's news to me. > >> your Linux Ebook reader getting muscled by Microsoft. BTW, there are >> also TONS of hacks for the Kindle to do nice things, but by itself the >> Kindle sends your GPS locations, sites, syslog and books read back to >> Amazon(not so nice)! > > No colour screen. Major problem IMHO. While the screen is more > capable for actual book reading, I think the rich media we're seeing > news move towards is obsoleting the Kindle's technology. > > For instance, the Wall Street Journal has an iPad app. For a > subscription fee, you can have news stories syndicated to your tablet > device in real time. It's also like a newspaper from Harry Potter > because it gives the journalists the ability to embed video in their > articles, and potentially other rich media based on JavaScript and > HTML5 elements. Publishing redactions and updates can be instant and > painless, not to mention free. > >> Microsoft+Amazon deal news... FUD as usual >> http://news.cnet.com/8301-13860_3-10457989-56.html?part=rss&subj=news&tag=2547-1_3-0-20 > > Awesome, I'll bury their ideological credibility next to Novell's > (nobody left flowers, either. How rude). > > -- > Registered Linux Addict #431495 > For Faith and Family! | John 3:16! > http://www.fsdev.net/ > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Linux Users > Group. > To post a message, send email to [email protected] > To unsubscribe, send email to [email protected] > For more options, visit our group at > http://groups.google.com/group/linuxusersgroup > > To unsubscribe, reply using "remove me" as the subject. > -- A healthy diet includes Linux, Linux, and more Linux. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Linux Users Group. To post a message, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit our group at http://groups.google.com/group/linuxusersgroup
