In message <v04003a31b16b2c2424db@[207.167.80.70]>, 
Chuq Von Rospach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>At 9:30 AM -0700 4/21/98, Andy Finkenstadt wrote:
>
>> Is there any practical way of preventing this in the future?
>
>Yes. turn on mailback verification on all lists, so addresses can't be
>subscribed without confirmation from that address.
>
>Or as I said to one list owner when he said he wouldn't do that because
>the spam on the list wasn't bad yet, that attitude is like coming home,
>smelling gas, and deciding to wait on calling the repairman bcause the
>house hasn't blown up yet.

Well said.

>If you don't do mailback verification, unless you're really small and
>really well hidden, the spam idiots WILL find you, and will start
>force-subscribing people onto your lists. and you get to clean up the
>damage, not the spammers.

Having been mass forge-subscribed onto a bunch of non-corfirming mailing
lists myself three times now, I have decided that yes, this really is
getting old.  So I've pretty well decided from now on _not_ to just let
it lie with a sternly worded personal warning to the (ir)responsible
list admin.  Nope.  That's just too easy.

>From now on, whenever I get forged subscribed onto a non-confirming list,
I've decided to use the opportunity (since I'm already subscribed) to make
a VERY blunt posting to this list in question, using as many four letter
words as I can possibly fit into a few paragraphs, and making the point
(repeatedly) that the reason the list subscribers have found themselves
being subjected to _my_ explitives is because they have a moron managing
their list.

I've tried this once already and believe me when I say that if the goal
is to get yourself unsubscribed in a hurry, this really does the trick.
(Well, anyway it worked like a charm when I did it on one ``History of
Religion'' list I had been forged subscribed too.)

Whether or not it makes any lasting impression on the incompetent list
admin is still an open question as far as I'm concerned.  But even if it
doesn't, I at least have the satisfaction of knowing that I have throughly
embarrased him/her by pointing out what an utter and complete ass he/she
is to a group of people that he/she may actually care about and/or may be
stuck interacting with into the indefinite future.


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