At 10:38 AM -0700 6/15/98, Margaret Levine Young wrote:
> I'm new to this list. I help manage a ListProc installation with 100 lists
> and about 5,000 subscribers.
First problem is, you're on listproc. But then, I promised myself not
to rant at that server any more....
> For example, the current methods for seeing who's on lists, checking list
> traffic, spotting lists that have died, and spotting lists whose managers
> are no longer active (or even subscribed!) seem clunky to me. (If I'm
> missing some cool tools, please set me straight!)
>
> Have people here thought about what kinds of tools would make the job of
> site manager or list manager easier? I don't know whether these tools would
> be e-mail based, Web based, or telnet-based, but I need 'em!
Listproc is clunky in general. But more specifically, when you tie
yourself to a proprietary e-mail system, you tend to get stuck with
what the authors give you. Lots of this stuff IS going on, but I don't
think much of it is being done at Listproc or ListServ, because those
systems aren't terribly open (and it doesn't make lots of sense to
write neat hacks to a commercial server). ListServ is better at this,
because the Listserv folks ARE actively working on stuff, but you're
still heavily tied to what the company does for you.
But take a look at what's going on around majordomo, and you'll see
lots of neet tools coming around, because it IS open, available and
hackable. And if you want to take advantage of that stuff, you probably
ought to think about going where the action is.
IMHO, of course.
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