** Sometime around 14:10:38 on Tue, 30 Jun 1998, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

>Does anyone on this list have any experience running/using the Lyris
>Mail list system.
>
>If so, could you share it with me.
>
>Thanks

Hi Martyn,

Yes, I run seven mailing lists (plus a non-production "test" list) on
Lyris. The lists span nearly all forms -- fully moderated "announcement"
style, partially moderated "discussion," and unmoderated discussion
lists. I've managed lists on seven different types of list servers,
including ListProc, LISTSERV, and Majordomo (plus lotsa smaller ones),
and Lyris simply stands taller than the rest.

In short, Lyris has some very innovative features that you typically
do not find in other list servers. Most of them are things that you
don't know you need until you actually *use* them -- and then you say,
"Hey, this is neat!" (or similar comment ;-), and eventually decide
that you could never again get by without them.

That's not to say that other list servers do not have some great
features, too. However, when the virtues of those features are pointed
out to the Lyris developers, they find their way into Lyris very quickly.
(In other words, the developer is very customer oriented.)

Thus, Lyris incorporates all the things you've come to like and expect
from other list servers, plus a whole lot of cool, innovative stuff,
like "Action Phrases," which are owner-configurable filters that you
can use to quickly and easily automate the processing of list messages.
Sorta like exit apps in LISTSERV, only a helluva lot easier. Okay,
that's still probably not very descriptive. Try this: I have created
action phrases to (1) reject messages with attachments, (2) reject
styled-text and HTML messages, (3) inform me whenever someone attempts
to REVIEW any of my mailing lists (I have my lists configured to
disallow such things, but I still like to know when they try), (4)
reject attempts to post "virus alerts" to the mailing list, (5) reject
messages with subjects that are the same as the list digests (for people
who forget to change them), and a few other things that I can't think
of right now. Oh yeah! Like "profanity" -- I have an action phrase that
rejects messages containing specific words that my co-listmoms and I
have decided are not appropriate for certain mailing lists. Anyway,
you get the picture. The result is mailing lists that are easier to
manage, and have much higher content. (I should add that posters are
sent customized "rejection messages" when their messages are rejected.)

Lyris also has the best bounce processing that I have ever seen built
into a list server. Now, some will argue that there are prices to pay
for that feature, but the bottom line is that, as a list owner, Lyris
exhibits *phenomenal* delivery performance. Oh, and BTW, I authored the
industry-standard third-party bounce processing software, so I would
not be espousing the virtues of Lyris's (i.e., a competitor's) bounce
handling capabilities if I did not truly believe in them.

You really need to try it to understand what I'm saying here. I'm pretty
sure that they offer a freeware version; try it out.

I also need to mention that, while I host lists on Lyris, I do not
receive *anything* from Lyris Technologies. The words in this message
are truly objective; I could shut down all of my mailing lists today,
and post the same message tomorrow. Thus, the standard disclaimers
really *do* apply.

Let me know if you have any questions; I'd be happy to answer them.
(Please reply to me directly, as humournet.com (which is where I
subscribe to this list) is in the process of moving to a new site, and
my connectivity through there is sketchy these days.)

--
Vince Sabio                      Listmom: HumourNet, Rhapsody, Merced,
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