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Steve Bergeon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Scripts were used to generate both the initial subscription message
and the reply's with authorization. <<
Scripted authorization replies considered harmful. I am beginning to feel
the urgent need for some kind of customization of the process so as to make
"script confirms" prohibitively difficult. Every week I get more
"legitimate" joins on my lists, from addresses that are clearly address
bots.
Jeffrey Goldberg wrote:
> I am certainly willing to accept a story involving silly mistakes
> and misunderstandings, but you've got to actually provide me with
> a plausible story, instead of of saying "oops".
...
> Until I get credible answers to those questions, I will consider your
> activity hostile, and continue the blocking.
Tinpot net.admin autocrats (TNA's) considered harmful.
There are two kinds of people who run afoul of TNA's: actual spammers, who
are far too busy harvesting data (in what turns out to be a very low-margin
business) -- and too inured to the usual indignant pieties -- to give a
rat's a** what guidelines, stern philosophies, conditions and socko
arguments some TNA has carefully crafted. Take a number, there are 000387
complaints pending.
And there are the genuinely innocent, who of course will be cowed and p***ed
off by the thunderous little voice of authority, to no greater good.
Personally I would never waste a moment of my time trying to make
conversation with a spammer or attacker. They have their jobs and I have
mine -- cut 'em off and if they want back in, let THEM write the pretty
letters.
Ron Guilmette asks:
>> If someone sent you an E-mail (in your capacity as list managers) asking
for a list of, for example, the
envelope sender addresses used in outgoing traffic on/with your lists, would
you send that info back, or would you balk? <<
I would never send it out. Anyone who genuinely needs this info (for an
admin purpose rather than idle curiosity) should know how to get it without
asking me. If they are a net.admin trying to cope with incoming list mail
to their subscribers, they already have the examples they need. If they are
a procmailing user with a legitimate need to be on one of the lists in
question, they can join and examine the mail before writing their script
line. And so forth.
If the request came from someone I knew, I would email them asking why they
were being an idiot. If it came from a stranger but appeared individually
composed for me, I would answer no. If it came as a form letter, I would
discard it silently and keep on truckin'.
