I asked Nick Simicich,

T> Whom do you mean by "you"?

He explained,

S> I presumed that some folks here might be running EzMLM systems.  These
S> people could presumably fix it for themselves.

Yes, they could, but none of them had participated in the thread, and no one
from the listhost in question has ever spoken up on list-managers in all my
years of subscription, so the use of the second person was dissonant.  Thank
you for explaining.

S> I've been known to misunderstand coversations before - wasn't part of the
S> issue that EzMLM with Qmail uses these addresses?

Yes.  The particular listhost uses a derivative of ezmlm with qmail, and
that is one feature left unchanged.

Nick had previously posted,

S2> Alternatively, consider providing an instructional page that explains how
S2> the end user caught in this pickle can telnet to port 25 of the system that
S2> MX's for the target and manually put in the e-mail to this weird address
S2> from themselves. :-)

to which I'd replied,

T> Interesting idea but impossible to explain to most people in that particular
T> briny cucumber.  Clicking on a URL sent to them in email is just about their
T> speed.  Asking them to send an answer to email anywhere besides the supplied
T> reply address is way above their heads.

S> Note the smily.

It was noted.  It was too small.  Your suggestion of getting these people to
learn how to telnet and speak SMTP was too wild for a smiley; if there is an
emoticon for something the writer knows to be utterly preposterous, it would
still be inadequate.  I was trying to say that your joking suggestion was
even farther from reality than, to guess from the mere smiley, you seemd to
think.

S> Hopefully you've made a positive step.  But if the number of badly broken 4
S> generation old Lotus MTAs that are still running are any indication, this
S> means that if they fix it tomorrow, it will cease being a problem in around
S> 2030.

You're optimistic.  As of this writing it still is not fixed on gohip.com,
and that's the BigMailBox site where a software update would show up first.

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