In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 
James M Galvin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

rfg>    But for any well-managed server that belongs to any company that
rfg>    makes its daily bread on the basis of providing mailing list
rfg>    services to random members of the general public, the user interface
rfg>    provided to the individual mailing list administrators clearly
rfg>    SHOULD NOT allow this safety mechanism to be disabled.

>Who do you consider a "random member of the general public"?

Well, for one example, the guy who subscribed me to that list which
promoted lotsoffreestuff.com. 

>Suppose elist services are provided on a for fee basis.  Are such
>individuals random?

They are less random.  In that case, at least we know that they have
money... money which can be, and which should be forfitted if they
are caught signing up ``subscribers'' who never asked to be on their
bleedin' lists.

>I hope not.  It should be entirely reasonable to
>not only disable but not even offer the safety mechanism to a known
>elist administrator, where "known" obviously means more than just
>someone who came to my web site and told me who they were.

Yes.  Money can be used as a sort-of `bond' against misbehavior.

But as I understand it, you don't need anything other than a Hotmail
account in order to start up your own new eGroups list.

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