On Thu, Jun 15, 2000 at 08:59:36PM -0700, Chuq Von Rospach wrote:
> You can if you must, but count me out... Other than to say it's too 
> bad some folks decided llong ago that one solution was the only 
> possible solution, and haven't noticed that there have been many 
> changes to reality since then that mimght make rethinking such 
> overly-simplistic ideas worthwhile.

And it's too bad that you can't address the idea itself, but instead
paint its proponents as antiquated thinkers.

Confirmation *works*.  It works well.  It scales. [*]  It prevents
some (but obviously not all) abuses.  And at least with the
s/w that I use to run mailing lists, it's trivial to implement.

I also think taking "reasonable and customary" steps to prevent
the resources I manage from being used to harrass other people is
part of my responsibility.  I don't believe that I can blithely
shrug it off as if it isn't.

---Rsk
Rich Kulawiec
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

[*] Lack of confirmation does not scale.  Consider what happens if
jerk A decides to harrass user B by subscribing B to every mailing
list A can find which lacks an acceptable confirmation mechanism.
Oh, sure, site C may only have one mailing list which then begins
shipping traffic to B; but site C may be only one of thousands with
whom B must now correspond to straighten things out.

This is, regretably, NOT a hypothetical case.

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