>That varies by the choice of topic and the preferences (and energy) of 
the 
>list admins, obviously.  Some lists devolve into a general 
>chowder-and-marching society for the clique of core subscribers, while 

>others make at least a halfhearted effort to stay on topic.

Again, "devolve" vs. "effort" indicates what you think is *the* *way* 
*it* *ought* *to* *be*, at least so it seems.  But for many people, they 
don't fail to achieve that -- it's never a goal.  Those lists are not 
intended to be on-topic -- they're intended to be salons that attract 
people who have some overlapping interests.



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