On Wed, 13 Aug 2003 15:05:20 -0500 
David W Tamkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> It's not necessarily the author either.  It could be the short-sighted
> admin who installed it, assuming that all mail to company addresses is
> personally directed to all addressees and that every message to an
> employee on vacation must get a vacation response every time,
> misconfigured the autoresponding software accordingly even though the
> author's defaults were sensible, and then got some gullible executive
> to order all employees to activate it when they are out of the office.

Right.  That's why I escalate to unsubscribing and finally banning the
domain in the case of companies.  They members will either successfully
exert clue-training on the admins, or as a group they are a source of
more potential trouble than they are worth.

> Then not only do the employees have no options; they don't know that
> the software has maleficent shortcomings.

Right, that's why you start with a warning.  

> That's why I said that JC or any other list administrator should go
> gently on a first-time offender.  The autoresponding subscriber may
> have had no choice.  If it recurs during another absence, then either
> the subscriber didn't or couldn't do anything about it.  In the case
> of "didn't," ban the jerk; in the case of "couldn't," ban the domain
> and notify all subscribers at addresses in it that they're welcome to
> rejoin from different accounts.

Precisely.

> In my list administering days I ran into both situations.

Also.

-- 
J C Lawrence                
---------(*)                Satan, oscillate my metallic sonatas. 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]               He lived as a devil, eh?                  
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