Hi, group, I've just joined and been looking for archives to avoid posting something redundant, but I can't find what I'm looking for.

I'm speaking on behalf of several Majordomo listowners who have recently been set adrift due to the sudden, tragic death of our 41-year old list and web host, Paul Rice at vlists. net. Paul served us with unfailing competence and reliability for years. With Paul's passing, the world is a poorer place.

Paul's family, concerned for his abandoned customers and entirely unfamiliar with his business, gave access to his operation and his servers to an acquaintance, another web host with a larger operation than Paul's. She very kindly offered to assume his customers and provide us uninterrupted service for our various accounts at the same prices and using the same set-ups. The cost part was graciously honored as most of us had prepaid for the upcoming year shortly before Paul passed away. The new organization began transferring accounts, waived set-up fees, and contacted owners for information about the services contracted for, etc. But the pledge to continue our Majordomo list service and our domain-list connections has failed rather miserably. Some of us, after repointing domain nameservers and providing our current and complete configs, etc., have sat for a couple of weeks wirh no list service at all, no access to our webs. We waited patiently because it was worth it to keep our systems unchanged.

Imagine our surprise to wake up this morning to our new *Mailman lists, loss of branded list adddresses, non-functional webs, and various other unacceptable situations. We've been informed that they've changed their mind, won't run Majordomo because it's too complicated and support-intensive and our domains can't be properly integrated with lists, etc.

Some of the customers, worried about the already long down time for their lists and sites, resigned themselves to the Mailman option and it will probably serve their purposes adequately. Others of us can not make operate our projects properly. Speaking for myself, as an example, I run an academically-oriented, fully moderated veterinary list in conjunction with a same-name web site. I have a longstanding commitment to the doctors and others in our group to maintain control of a number of functions that I have managed for years, issues of privacy and, most important, the ability to edit posts during the moderation process, correct errors and spellings, insert citations and resource links, etc., before posting the messages through still carrying the original author's ID headers. Others among us have some other issues that underlie their need to retain Majordomo lists and lodge them with a service that will also support their web sites.

The problem is, we can't seem to find any such host that isn't either restricted to large commercial customers or that runs Majordomo as an afterthought with no host support available. We have been operating quite happily with Majordomo 1.94.5+ (some enhancements) and demime, and web pages requiring Front Page extensions and with a couple of POP mail acacounts for admin addresses.. We have current complete copies of configs for regular and digest lists. We are "easy keepers" with Majordomo understanding. So the question, after that long explanation of our dilemma, is if anyone here can confidently recommend (or be) a host service that would meet our needs. We understand that Majordomo is supposedly becoming a dinosaur, but if Majordomo is a dinosaur, Mailman is a fast-food drive-thru and does not offer the level of service necessary for specific needs of certain customers.

If anyone can help, point us to a reliable and reasnable provider, or be one, I would be very relieved to be advised of it and will share the information with our group. Thanks so much.

Hilary

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