Thanks, here is an article that I got to from a search on the word
recursive on that site that.  From a quick glance, looks like the structure
recommended by Celko in the latter chapters of his book, he goes into more
details on his reasoning in the book, which I highly recommend.  I know it
took me a few reads in Celko's book to get the idea, but you can see where
breaking the normal, normalization standards for a tree structure may
actually be better for your applications as a whole in this instance.  It's
a big debate that I'm not trying to start, I just think it's interesting to
hear how other peoples opinions differ from what we learned in school (or by
reading).
http://www.dbpd.com/vault/9811/kamfn.shtml

        Also, Notice the example is of an org chart:)

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This is the link to the articles that I sent you awhile back.

http://www.intelligententerprise.com/ports/search_celko.shtml

Matthew

>From: "Jacob Cameron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 09:34:35 -0500
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>It's THE ANSI SQL book.  Examples in Oracle, SQL, FoxPro, DB2, and others:)
>
>http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1558605762/qid=1032359306/sr=
8
>-1/ref=sr_8_1/002-9478273-0984050?v=glance&s=books&n=507846
>
>     Or just search for Joe Celko, he's the author and on the ANSI SQL
>committee for SQL '92 standard.  Do a search on Google for him, he's got
>some good examples on the web that I've seen, but I'd have to find them.
>     Matt, wasn't it you who sent me the links to his online articles?
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>Behalf
>Of Schreck, Tom
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>
>   Where do you get SQL for Smarties?
>
>
>
>   Thanks -
>
>
>
>   Tom Schreck
>
>   817-252-4900
>
>   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>
>
>   I have not failed.  I've found 10,000 ways that won't work.
>
>
>
>   - Thomas Edison
>
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>
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: Jacob Cameron [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>   Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 9:14 AM
>   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>   Pickup the latest copy of SQL for smarties, the examples in chapter
>18,19,20 (I believe) are about recursion and the examples are positions
>within an org chart.  Or if your on SQL 2k you can read this article for
>another approach:
>
>   http://www.sqlmag.com/Articles/Index.cfm?ArticleID=16123
>
>       Basically, most discussions on recursion center around org charts.
>There are two major theories about how to do it best, one is recursion when
>you pull the data, the other is recursion when you update the tree.  Both
>methods are discussed and compared in the later chapters of SQL for
>smarties.
>
>
>
>
>
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
>Behalf
>Of Schreck, Tom
>   Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 8:47 AM
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>
>     I have a database of personnel which contains manager-employee
>relationship data.  The personnel record contains the id of that person's
>manager (numManagerID).  numManagerID points to another record within the
>personnel table.  I need to have a recordset containing all personnel who's
>in a manager's organization, not just direct reports.  Has anyone done
>something similar to this?  I'm envisioning a lot of looping to build a
>recordset of all personnel within a given manager's organization.  Any
>help/advice would be appreciated.
>
>
>
>     Thanks -
>
>
>
>     Tom Schreck
>
>     817-252-4900
>
>     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>
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>     I have not failed.  I've found 10,000 ways that won't work.
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>     - Thomas Edison
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