Please take this conversation somewhere else.
It's making me tired.


--- Clement Cervenka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Ferg,
> 
>    About 6 months ago, their was this conference in
> LA, dealing with the subject of addressing private
> and
> public objectionable material concernings within the
> us market places. The major problem was the cost
> factor in development such an software package.
> Several software development companies have tried
> this
> concerpt, with very badly terrible results, and even
> more is the cost factor, for an one time only
> purchase
> usage. 
>    Their is an movement about that wants to allow
> local communities to set objectionable material
> standards with regards to private and public viewing
> of any and all type of materials.
>    Have you had an chance to view US goverment
> websites throught the world with regards to their 
> objectionable material and or political messaages.
> 
> PS; Most of the Arabia counties don't even allow
> american websites to be hosted or viewed, due to
> religious and political concerns. 
> 
> 
> --- Ken Ferguson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > My idea though, is a simple application that a
> host
> > could use to scan
> > their own networks for objectionable material.
> Then
> > hosts like The
> > Planet couldn't say it's too difficult or too
> > expensive to police the
> > content on all of our customers' sites...
> > 
> > --Ferg
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> > Behalf Of Clement Cervenka
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 11:20 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: The latest news from The Planet
> > 
> > Freg,
> > 
> >     With regards to developing an software
> program,
> > that scans sites on their network for objectable
> > materials content, that kind of software progams
> > already exsists and is in real time usage for the
> > last
> > 3 to 4 years, at goverment security and
> intelligent
> > listering post across an world wide scanning net.
> > Their was even an hardback book published about 4
> > years ago, covering this issues.
> >     The software program is called conavaour, its
> > designed to scan voice and text messages using
> > inputted specific key work phrases acorss the
> world
> > communication channel infrstructor in real time,
> and
> > the 60 minutes segment shows about 2 years ago,
> > really
> > was an behind the screens into the us listering
> post
> > opeations.
> > 
> > PS; The general public doesn't know that encry.
> > software that is designed,producted,distributed,
> > import & exported within the US is listed an 
> > classified as WMD (weapons of massive destruction)
> > across all fields within the US. That is one of
> the
> > main reason why out goverment want to keep the
> encty
> > bit # low so that they can unencry messages in
> real
> > time for leads, etc.
> > 
> > Also, if you start scanning content providors, and
> > hosting services, then this would also include TV,
> > Radio, Computers, Films outlets as well.
> > 
> > --- Ken Ferguson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > 
> > > As I've found time and again dealing with
> several
> > > companies, it actually
> > > seems to be a disqualifying trait!!!
> > > 
> > > It's a huge issue to think about though. I'm in
> > > negotiations to partner
> > > with another company in a venture to start a
> > hosting
> > > company. This sort
> > > of thing has got me scratching my head and
> > wondering
> > > if it's really
> > > worth it. I mean, do I really want to spend
> > valuable
> > > time dealing with
> > > this sort of thing...
> > > 
> > > Someone might want to get with internet haganah
> > and
> > > develop a tool that
> > > would allow hosts to scan the sites on their
> > > networks for sites like
> > > this. You might be able to market that pretty
> well
> > > and make a good chunk
> > > of cash.
> > > 
> > > --Ferg
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> > > Behalf Of Clement Cervenka
> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 10:34 AM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: The latest news from The Planet
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Jake,
> > > 
> > >     No body said that you have to be smart or
> > > intelliegence to operate an IPS in america
> today?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- Jake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > If that is actually the case here, it's still
> a
> > PR
> > > > disaster. If that 
> > > > were truly the case, they should have simply
> > said
> > > > "We are working with 
> > > > all appropriate law enforcement agencies"
> > > > 
> > > > PR nightmare.
> > > > 
> > > > Clement Cervenka wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > >Johnny and to all fellow CF members,
> > > > >
> > > > >Please memeory that some of those sites are
> > > > actually
> > > > >developed and managed by US goverment
> > intelligent
> > > > and
> > > > >security agencies for the express purpose of
> > > > >grathering intellence and related security
> > > issues??
> > > > >I know that this is not general public
> > > acknowledge,
> > > > >but it has become an acceptance practice
> > nowdays
> > > > under
> > > > >
> > > > >the goverment security IT field.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >joe 
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >--- Johnny Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >  
> > > > >
> > > > >>Equally interesting is the 'terrorist
> tracker'
> > > > >>website (the owner is
> > > > >>referenced in the article)
> > > > >>
> > > > >>http://www.haganah.us/haganah/index.html
> > > > >>
> > > > >>I encourage you, if you are hosting at any
> of
> > > the
> > > > >>listed companies - let
> > > > >>them know your concerns...if they react
> > > initially
> > > > >>like thePlanet did
> > > > >>(shrugging their shoulders and saying 'it's
> a
> > > free
> > > > >>country'...switch
> > > > >>providers like me!!
> > > > >>
> > > > >>:o)
> > > > >>
> > > > >> 
> > > > >>
> > > > >>-----Original Message-----
> > > > >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> > > > >>Of Jake
> > > > >>Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 9:03 AM
> > > > >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > >>Subject: OT: The latest news from The Planet
> > > > >>
> > > > >>Under the heading of "Companies who REALLY
> > need
> > > a
> > > > PR
> > > > >>department"...
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>    
> > > > >>
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
>http://cbs11tv.com/localnews/local_story_317193815.html
> > > > >  
> > > > >
> > > > >>    
> > > > >>
> > > >
> > >
> >
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