You can carry a calculation out to an accurate but meaningless point.
We do not want to build our governance system around the "Cajun" or homeless
exception. Roeland's point is fine, but I do not think he intends it to be
more than rhetorical.
Roeland M.J. Meyer wrote:
> Karl Auerbach wrote:
> >> ...there are real, physical
> >> people and then there are artificial persons, corporations. The
> >> existence of the latter is much easier to verify than the existence
> >> of the former.
> >
> ...My wife has a number of relations, in "Cajun country" that couldn't even
> prove their right to American citizenship.
No, but they have no problem signing up to vote in the state of Louisiana.We
could use the La. voter registration cards as proof of their existence if they
want to vote in Cyberland. There will be similar mechanisms in Nigeria if
documentation is required.
> ...Also, most 14 year olds do not carry any form of
> identification. No adult is required to have identification, it is just
> inconvenient if you don't. However, a corp must have papers at all times.
True, all corporations must have papers. In Texas it costs $25 to file a
non-profit corporation. If we have a total membership in the hundreds of
corporations and votes involving considerably less than all, a $500 dollars
will create 20 shell corporations--enough to sway the results of most ICANN
elections. Your friend, Net Kook, might get a big laugh out of that--and it
would be LEGAL!
And, there are real entities which do not have papers--partnerships and
associations. The Texas ISP Association was only recently incorporated. The
Domain Name Rights Coalition was thrown off the IFWP steering committee because
it was not incorporated despite the fact that it was an organizer of the
"entity." We did not like that exercise before, what will make it more
paletable, now?
> A more visible example are the homeless in San Francisco, many are
> undocumented.
If they want to vote in ICANN, they will have to provide whatever documentation
is required.
However, you can register to vote in most of the US without any proof of your
existence and without giving any third-party information as a reference--no
social security card nor drivers license is required in Texas. In fact, your
husband or child can register you by post card. I will send you the blank
forms, I have hundreds of them in my office.
As with most things in life, we will balance the need for verification against
the effort and cost of each proposed solution. But, in weighting the various
considerations, shouldn't we be careful not to let the verification tail wag
the policy question elephant of who/what should be a member?
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