I have a different avenue of concern than usually gets brought up on the IFWP or other lists. What I am realizing is that with all the talk about the Internet as on the IFWP list, there is actually very little understanding or concern for the Internet. The only way that it was possible to build the Internet, was that there were computer pioneers who were both supported to do basic research (though DARPA mainly, but also Bell Labs had a role). And that these computer pioneers respected the technology of the computer and of packet switching networking and were able to therefore figure out how to make it all work. At the base of their philosophy were notions of open interfaces, i.e. of the fact that the user had to be able to design his or her side of the interface with the computer and thus make it something that would be of use. Also as a recent draft paper I am working on about the Internet and Communictions, at the base of the Internet work was a recognition that the networks that would be connected via internetworking were autonomous and that autonomy had to be respected and supported. That is, as far as I understand thus far, some of the need for cooperative processes that have been needed to build and nourish the Internet. Those seeking to make money off of the Internet and to commercialize it, are in general concerned about making their money, *not* about the Internet or its users. Despite this, it is important that there be those who care about the Internet who find a way to study and support the development and scaling of the Internet. There really needs to be a research institute devoted to this, but I have found that the attack by commercial forces is so great it is even hard to get papers accepted at conferences (like for example the Internet Society conferences) nevermind get any support for the kind of research that recognizes the importance of the Internet and the need to study and research what its needs are and what it makes possible. Thus the Internet is treated very different from the computer it seems, especially now. It is used and abused, but not cared for or recognized by the powers that be. However, hopefully this will all change once folks realize that the Internet is an important human-computer-computer_communication symbiosis and as such it needs care and support and understanding, rather than power plays and strip mining. Ronda [EMAIL PROTECTED] Netizens: On the History and Impact of Usenet and the Internet http://www.columbia.edu/~hauben/netbook/ in print edition ISBN 0-8186-7706-6 __________________________________________________ To receive the digest version instead, send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To SUBSCRIBE forward this message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNSUBSCRIBE, forward this message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Problems/suggestions regarding this list? Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___END____________________________________________