Brian and all,

  First Brian, I am CC'ing the relevant lists in this FWD...

  It appears that William is making your point for you as he seemed
to ignore some of your original response to him earlier.  I guess he is
not
aware that you and I are currently connected concurrently....
If you want Brian, I would be happy to include that part of the original

reply to william and the others on the various lists for you, however it
may
be better to do so yourself.  It should only take a few minuets.

BTW, I am sorry that our radial gateway through the Dallas POP is not
consistent.  I will have someone take a look at that problem some time
later and let you know privately...  But please do not give that toll
free
radial switch number out beyond your staff using the account as we
have not put security in place for it yet.

For your records Brian,
Regards,

--
Jeffrey A. Williams
CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng.
Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Contact Number:  972-447-1894
Address: 5 East Kirkwood Blvd. Grapevine Texas 75208



I'd like to note that I got a response from Brian, claiming he had
used the Netcom toll free access number, but the headers of the
original message show this to be a lie, and since a number of others
received the message directly, this can be verified.

I verified with Mindspring/netcom that none of their toll free numbers
ring on Dallas POPs.

The second message though DID come from a different POP, and surprise,
it WAS one of the ones used by the toll free access number.

Looks like someone slipped up the first time and tried to correct it
the second  :)  Hogwash as the messages and headers will show at
http://www.dso.net/wwalsh/jeffw/



On Thu, 15 Apr 1999 07:45:43 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William X. Walsh)
wrote:

>
>The below email was received by email addressed from this Brian
>Hollingsworth.
>
>Notice these things from the headers :
>
>1.
>Received: from dal-tx4-60.ix.netcom.com(207.94.121.124) by
>dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3)
>       id rma025480; Thu Apr 15 02:00:52 1999
>
>This shows that this person sent it from the netcom dialup in Dallas,
>TX on IP 207.94.121.124
>
>Minutes later Jeff sent a reply that was also sent to these lists from
>the EXACT same IP.
>
>
>2.
>X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.08 [en] (Win16; I)
>
>The EXACT same mail client, version, and OS platform that Jeff posted
>(and has posted from for quite a long time).
>
>3.  Look at the times.  The time error that has been in all of Jeff's
>messages for a long time is the EXACT same time difference error as is
>displayed in "Brian"'s message.
>
>
>
>I will post both this message with headers and the followup message
>addressed using Jeff's address on the website at
>http://www.dso.net/wwalsh/jeffw/  within the hour, and you will be
>able to see it yourself.
>
>On top of what I already pointed out in other messages, let their be
>NO doubt in anyone's mind now.
>
>Full permission is granted to forward this to any and all forums on
>which this imposter and fake has participated and disrupted by his
>clearly fradulent behavior.
>
>Full message from "Brian" is below (headers included) :
>
>
>On Thu, 15 Apr 1999 00:17:56 +0100, "Brian C. Hollingsworth"
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Received: from dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com
>[206.214.98.12])
>       by bilbo.dso.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA16932
>       for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 00:01:20 -0700
>Received: (from smap@localhost)
>          by dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4)
>         id CAA25501; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 02:01:10 -0500 (CDT)
>Received: from dal-tx4-60.ix.netcom.com(207.94.121.124) by
>dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3)
>       id rma025480; Thu Apr 15 02:00:52 1999
>Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 00:17:56 +0100
>From: "Brian C. Hollingsworth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Organization: IHOJ
>X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.08 [en] (Win16; I)
>MIME-Version: 1.0
>To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>CC: "William X. Walsh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>        "Esther Dyson (ICANN ADDRESS)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>        Mike Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>[EMAIL PROTECTED],
>        Icann Membership <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: [Advisory Notice from IHOJ] Subject: Unsavory Individules
>"NetKooks"
>X-Priority: 2 (High)
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>Status: 
>
>Dear Mr. Williams,
>
>Please forward this note to all the relevant public E-Mail lists to
>which you have
>so kindly provided forwarding posts from for our review.
>
>Too all concerned,
>
>  Upon recent review of the IHOJ judicial review and the EU Advisory
>council for Public Affairs and Internet Policy has been monitoring
>several
>discussion lists courtesy of Mr. Jeffrey A. Williams, regarding
>subjects
>
>with interest in Internet affairs and policy, have compiled a list of
>individuals
>that are considered of an "Unsavory or questionable character".  This
>list
>includes the following individuals:
>
>William X. Walsch
>Mike Roberts (ICANN Interim Board CEO)
>Joe Simms
>Kent Crispin
>Dr. Eberhard W. Lisse
>D. Crocker
>Robert Shaw ( ITU )
>Bret A. Fausett
>Christopher Ambler
>Amadeu Abril i Abril
>Roberto Gaetano
>Antony Van Couvering
>Kevin J. Connolly
>
>  This list will be forwarded to all participating Internet Service
>providers, Internet
>Access Providers, and relevant consulate offices as per request.
>
>  In the near future, a web page will be available for public review.
>
>Sincerely,
>
>--
>Brian C. Hollingsworth
>Sr. Legal Advisor, International House of Justice Internet
>Communications
>Affairs and Policy
>Advisory council for Public Affairs and Internet Policy, European
>Union


--
William X. Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
General Manager, DSo Internet Services

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