Kerry and all,
Well said and very good points. I believe that you have captured the essence
of the situation quite well here. It appears as though, as has been suspected
that we have a conundrum of sorts wholly created and orchestrated by the
ICANN Interim Board and certain other other "Followers"...
Kerry Miller wrote:
> Only Esther could respond first to Rick's writing:
>
> > >I would like to understand what voting in the constituency
> > > meeting means. It appears that anyone can go to a meeting
> > > and participate in its organization.
>
> thusly:
> > That's really up to the constituencies themselves - as long as the voting
> > rules pass muster: open, nondiscriminatory, broad participation, etc.
> >
>
> without explaining that of course there are no voting rules until
> organizational bylaws have been accepted by the membership.
> Since the contituencies have not convened, they have no
> members, therefore no rules, therefore there can be no voting in an
> "OPEN meeting to [discuss] the formation of each of the seven
> initial constituencies." (Molly Shaffer Van Houweling )
>
> "Discussing the formation" therefore means, first of all, putting
> together the agenda: the nature of the organization, the structure of
> the bylaws, the rules of voting and then adopting that as the
> framework **by acclamation** -- that is, agree to *constitute* the
> nucleus of an organization. Those who dont so agree, of
> course, go off to start again, towards a different organization with a
> different structure or different procedural rules.
>
> So the upshot is, discuss what you like, organize what you like,
> but dont claim you've *voted* on anything until the little ducks are
> in a row -- otherwise ICANN will disqualify your application to be a
> 'constituency' and you'll have to start over.
>
> ===
>
> -- and then to EL,
>
> > The rooms are open. Then either the constituencies self-organize,
> > and the Initial Board recognizes them, or certain constituencies
> > will be missing in the initial DNSO. At that point, the
> > constituencies can determine who qulaifies as a member, but those
> > criteria need to be justifiable in light of the purpose/nature of
> > the constituency.
>
> -- perhaps on the assumption that anyone plowing through the n-
> tuple redundancy and spurious attributions and hairy red herrings
> that abound on this list will take her to mean that "discussion of
> formation" leading to "self-organization" by "pass-the-muster
> [please]" criteria must all take place in one f2f meeting on the 26th,
> and forget that it has been announced that no 'new' constituencies
> will be considered at Berlin by the [Interim] Board.
>
> Of course, this kind of obfuscation is necessary; otherwise
> someone might realize that this board that was convened to
> discuss the formation of the Initial Board has been following
> somewhat different rules.
>
> kerry
Regards,
--
Jeffrey A. Williams
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Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
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