Let me as a "Guest" here make a few comments regarding this post
and the surrounding situation here to which Joop is referring to.
Most of us on this list know all too well the list activities
and practices of
Kent Crispin. They are nearly legendary in many ways that I will
not
at this time expound upon. Given this and Kevin's misguided approach
to
the situation of the existence and his participation, and than later
decision to
retract that said participation, archives should have been made available
from the beginning. On this ONE point Kent was correct.
AFTER this
minor point Kent, Dave Crocker, and Kevin went way overboard in their
comments attacking Joop. Joop is only attempting to do the correct
thing,
and I am sure that most of us realize this clearly.
As to my personal feelings towards this whole bungled mess.
Joop,
you should have provided the ability for archival before activating
the
IDNO list. This may seem like a minor thing, but to many it is
not.
There are many e-mail archival facilities available FREE on the net
that you could have employed, Joop. Please understand I am not
chastising you here, just being as brief and complete as possible.
If you need help finding these archival facilities, just ask.
As for Kent Crispin, Dave Crocker, and Kevin Connolly's behavior
in this regard and over this mess. I think personally it is deplorable
and is unfortunately in keeping with their past behavioral patterns
that we unfortunately have all become all too familiar with.
Occasional
outburst are fine and expected, but these guys BRAND of discourse
is a total different category. They have earned their various
nick-names
(referencing Kent and Dave in particular here).
Joop, you do not owe anyone an apology of any kind. However
I do believe that Kent, Dave and Kevin do owe you one at the very least...
Now back to the regular unscheduled programming.... >;)
Joop Teernstra wrote:
Kevin Connolly wrote:Regards,
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Subject: Re: [IDNO:402] wire update
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Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bitFascinating. I seem to recall that Kent was castigated because he asked where the archives were located. It seems to be a deep, dark secret. I was a founder of the IDNO and the existence/location of the archive was kept secret from me.
Before the myth of the founding of the IDNO by Kevin J. Connolly takes off, I would like to make clear what this founding consisted of.
I invited all joiners, who would join before the ICANN Berlin meeting to be listed on the web page as founding members.
That's all.
This is how Mr Connolly founded the IDNO constituency:
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X-UIDL: af05f8f0fce7489f5335bb9daa48d7a6Okay, since I am the owner of the Cybersharque domain, I qualify; you can name
me as a founder, and link to my homepage blurbhttp://www.cybersharque.com/kevin.html
Kevin J. Connolly
Frankly I think Kevin's buddy, Mr Crispin, who qualified too but did not join, has been more fortright about his position.
With regards to the archives: they were on Mr Conolly's own harddrive and on every other listmember's.
The list had only just started and no decision about any public archiving had yet been made by the IDNO members.--Joop Teernstra LL.M.-- , bootstrap ofthe Cyberspace Association,the constituency for Individual Domain Name Ownershttp://www.idno.org
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