Diane and all,

Diane Cabell wrote:

> Kerry Miller wrote:
>
> > Karl,
> >   Thanks for running through the history, but it still looks to me
> > reasonable to suppose that the BoD will be able (is charged, in
> > fact) to evaluate a proposal originatng from an SO in the light of all
> > other inputs. Just because DNSO says it wants WIPO rules, say,
> > doesnt mean it's automatically approved.
>
> I believe Karl does not question the Board's right right to evaluate and/or
> override an SO proposal.  As I understand him, he is concerned that the At-large,
> currently the only potential home for the individual, cannot propose policy
> itself.

  This is how I understand Karls concern or point as well.  And a relevant
concern it certainly is.  If you recall some 2 months ago Mike (The Robber)
Roberts, made a particular point of being very opposed to individual members
having any real position or control over policy.  I believe he referred to
these folks a "Kooks", if memory serves me correctly.  I believe this was in
a wired article.  I could pull it out if someone really wants to see it I suppose..

>
>
> If the DNSO declined to propose adding a TLD for the new nation of Cabellia (hey,
> this is my scenario here),  Karl's interpretation of the bylaws is that the
> At-large may not independently introduce such a proposal.

  Yes, and as I said above this is how I understand Karls concern as well.
One that is defiantly legitimate if as you recall Becky Burr herself stated
very emphatically back in december that this process was to be Bottom-up
and stakeholder driven.

>
>
>  VI.2.c acknowledges that policy proposals may be introduced from non-SO sources;
>
> "(c)  The Board shall refer proposals for substantive policies not received from
> a Supporting Organization to the Supporting Organization, if any, with primary
> responsibility for the area to which the proposal relates for initial
> consideration and recommendation to the Board."
>
> There is nothing anywhere in the bylaws that prohibits the At-large from making
> proposals although there is unfortunately no mechanism established to encourage
> it.  It's still pretty hard for one or more individuals to put an organization
> together to work through a proposal, especially if the SOs can ignore that input.
>
> > >     No recommendation of a Supporting Organization shall be adopted unless
> > >     the votes in favor of adoption would be sufficient for adoption by the
> > >     Board without taking account of [*]either the Directors selected by the
> > >     Supporting Organization or their votes[*].
>
> > Now there's an interesting phrase! Does anyone (Diane?) have an
> > exegesis?
>
> On routine business conducted by the full (elected) Board, a simple majority of
> those present (given a quorum) is required to act.  The passage quoted above
> (VI.2.e) is intended to remove the interested SO from voting on its own proposal,
> thereby requiring a higher level of support from the remainder of the Board
> (including the at-large) to approve it.  [The I-Board and by-law amendments, on
> the other hand, require a 2/3 majority vote.]
>
> I'm not sure offhand, but the *either/or* perhaps intends to eliminate the SO
> from both quorum and vote calculations.  Interesting question whether VI.2.e
> would affect the number of directors necessary to change the bylaws if an SO
> proposal required such an amendment.
>
> Diane Cabell
> http://www.mama-tech.com
> Fausett, Gaeta & Lund, LLP
> Boston, MA

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