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>Subject: RE: [IFWP] ICANN teams with DOJ against Commerce and NSI - Rutt B
> etter form Alernative Root
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>The e-mail from Simms was revealed during Thursday's hearing. I got it when
>a staffer handed it out to the press at that time.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Jeff Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Thursday, July 22, 1999 5:49 PM
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>IDNO; Joe (Virus leaden Web Page expert) Simms
>Subject: Re: [IFWP] ICANN teams with DOJ against Commerce and NSI - Rutt
>Better form Alernative Root
>
>
>Gordon, Brock, and all,
>
> Thank you Gordon for sharing this with us. It seems to me though
>that this should have been released some time ago if possible.
>Don't you think? Others?
>
> Brock, How long have you had a copy of this E-Mail form Mr. Sims?
>
> There is much in this letter that explains much that has occurred sense
>March, when this letter was exchanged. It also points up some interesting
>information that I had been getting through other DOJ sources as well.
>
>Gordon Cook wrote:
>
>> Given today's events, Jim Rutt better announce the formation of a
>> Global Open Registry Association and solicit the 224 country code
>> TLDs to join the Registry Association before the GAC makes them
>> obsolete. The Registry Association better also form its own
>> independent Root and invite the 224 country codes to enter that root.
>> The Association should then announce that any new registry paying a
>> reasonable performance bond can join and place its new TLDs in the
>> Global Open Registry Association Root.
>>
>> Rutt, in his testimony, said "ICANN has, unfortunately, refused to
>> negotiate [. . . ] and has insisted, instead, that we accept their
>> "accreditation agreement," which would require NSI to give ICANN the
>> unilateral right to terminate our business with 15 days notice and
>> take over the ownership of our intellectual property, substituting
>> the unaccountable judgments of ICANN's unelected board for those of
>> an NSI Board which owes fiduciary duties to some 20,000 investors and
>> five million registrants."
>>
>> Rather than negotiate in good faith with Rutt, ICANN prepared for the
>> hearing by sending a copy of the March 31 1999 Joe Sims message below
>> to committee staff who, according to Brock Meeks, released it at the
>> hearing. It shows clearly that it is time for Rutt to fight or die.
>> We thank Brock for sending it and giving us permission to disseminate
>> it.
>>
>> From: "Meeks, Brock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Subject: sims email
>> Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 16:30:04 -0700
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>>
>> The following e-mail was released during today's congressional hearing on
>> ICANN.
>>
>> It's dated March 31, 1999 from Joe Sims to "Chair, JDICANN" and the
>subject
>> is "t/c's" which I take to mean "teleconferences" (phone calls). The
>> e-mail, which was not refuted by Sims, speaks for itself.
>>
>> 1. I spoke today with Chris Kelly, who is the DOJ senior person
>focused
>> on NSI/ICANN issues. The thrust of the conversation was our mutual
>> frustration with the lack of aggressiveness of DOC. Chris explained that,
>> so long as the Cooperative Agreement was in place, the antitrust options
>> were limited, which I of course understood, but said DOJ was encouraging
>DOC
>> to push harder--and in fact had assigned DOC some economists to help with
>> the price cap issues. I suggested that one thing DOJ could do is increase
>> the level of pressure on DOC, by some form of formal communication or a
>> higher-level contact; Chris said that was already under consideration. He
>> also indicated that, while there may have been some legitimate basis of
>> concern that a fight with NSI 6 months ago could destabilize the net, he
>> thought that was less likely today, and that it would be useful for DOC to
>> hear from significant organizations that they were perfectly willing and
>> capable of stepping into NSI's shoes with little difficulty, [and]
>> assuming access
>> to the root files. This led to a discussion on how desirable it would be
>to
>> get control of the root away from NSI, so that if necessary that transfer
>> could be made.
>>
>> 2. A while later, Mark Bohannon called to set up a t/c with Andy
>Pincus
>> [DOC Attorney] for tomorrow. As it turned out, we ended up having
>> the t/c today.
>> Pincus wanted to know from the horse's mouth what ICANN's view was of this
>NSI
>> contract. I told him that we did not need a contract with NSI as registry
>> at the moment, and that the recent discussions were all generated by NSI
>> and/or Becky. What we wanted to now was to complete the registrar
>process,
>> which required action by DOC; to accredit the test bed and accredit
>> non-test bed
>> registrars now; I told him we were doing to give priority to test bed
>> applicants, but after that, we planned to process accreditation
>applications
>> as fast as we could, and we did not plan to wait until some artificial
>time
>> to announce open accreditations. Bohannon then asked if we were still in
>> agreement that NSI did not have to accredited to participate in the test
>> bed; I said that was a point of some controversy, and I didn't know where
>we
>> stood on that officially; he said that if we changed our position on that
>> and said NSI had to be accredited to participate in the test bed, that
>would
>> be a big problem. I then told them that ICANN was getting impatient, and
>> that while we would not do anything without checking with them and would
>not
>> do anything at all for the next day or so, we were likely to become more
>> publicly critical in the near future (a point I had also made with DOJ).
>> There was a little back and forth about us working together and the call
>> ended.
>>
>> The combination of these two calls gives me some hope that there might be
>> some progress. I am encouraged that DOJ appears to be as impatient as we
>> are, and I think we should steadily keep up and increase pressure on DOC.
>> One way to do that is to start pushing on the root issues, where we have
>not
>> pushed yet. We should think about whether there is an easy and obviously
>> acceptable place to put A root server, and maybe start pushing to have
>that
>> done.
>>
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