Sunday, August 08, 1999, 2:29:13 PM, Dave Crocker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 10:13 AM 8/8/99 , A.M. Rutkowski wrote: >>> >ALMOST 150 members WORLDWIDE speak for the internet users of the world >>>But your CORE does? >>There is one basic matter regarding CORE that seems >>essential - who are its members? The official CORE > There is one basic matter regarding your own contribution to these > discussions that seems essential, namely the amount of money you get paid, > when, and what interactions there are between you and NSI. > Oh? You don't think that's relevant? > Perhaps you are right. While I will agree with you, Dave, that Tony is far from an objective contributor to this process, one should also point out that neither are you. You worked hard to develop something that led to CORE, and like anyone who worked so hard on something, you have to admit you are less than objective when it comes to these issues. However, this does not change the validity of what is being said by either you or Tony. Tony brings up a very valid point. This NC is made up almost entirely of people who have made a point of supporting the CORE proposals. They have that unifying factor between them. And this is one of the major issues in this process, an issue where there is a broad spectrum of opinion. This NC is not representative of that spectrum at all, and by definition it cannot be considered to be objective. > Most distracting questions aren't relevant, are they? > So let's suggest that we focus on issues that are directly relevant to > making progress, instead of ones that are calculated to be directly > relevant to maintaining a divisive tone and preventing progress. > What do you say, Tony? I think this topic is very relevant to making progress. Its is a point that shows that this panel on the NC does not represent a diverse spectrum of opinions of the internet community, and hence cannot make claims that their decisions are any sort of consensus. This CORE agenda is one of the MAJOR issues in this process. In any organization of this type, diversity brings STRENGTH. Those who sit on the NC should be working to bring diversity to the NC, MOST ESPECIALLY from those whom they disagree with on fundamental issues such as the CORE/gTLD-MoU principles. Otherwise there will ALWAYS remain the cloud of impropriety over this DNSO and NC and any and all "decisions" or "recommendations" they make. Instead of doing this, they are pushing a VERY rushed and hasty agenda on some of the most important issues in this process without any kind of diversity in place. Outreach and expansion needs to be priority one, otherwise "consensus" CANNOT be claimed, and any and all decisions made are tainted. You have never denied that your definition of progress is, quite frankly, anything that leads to getting a CORE run gTLD added to the roots in the most expeditious manner possible, regardless of the compromises that must be made to get there, the ends justify the means, and we can "fix" the mess created by doing things this way later. The simple fact is that once these precedents are in place, they will be damn near impossible to reverse. So questions about the form and process are DEFINITELY on topic, and lead to progress. Progress MUST be defined as making this process as representative of the wide spectrum of opinions, cultures, and interests as possible. THEN the decisions that are made are less likely to have the "taint" of the common "special interest" shared by such a large number (a vast majority) of the current NC members. -- William X. Walsh General Manager, DSo Internet Services Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fax:(209) 671-7934 (IDNO MEMBER) Support the Cyberspace Association, the constituency of Individual Domain Name Owners http://www.idno.org