Tony wrote, > The GAC is an autonomous intergovernmental body > and can do whatever it wishes. The ICANN Board is obliged > to confer with the GAC prior to taking any significant > decisions, and the conversely the GAC can otherwise > compel the Board to consider any matter the GAC cares to > raise. and Craig responded, > The GAC folks (the majority of whom I agree probably don't have a > clue) are just looking out for the public interest, which is, I'd > venture to claim, relevant here. > Of Tony's three independent assertions, I agree with #1 and #2. The point of interest is #3, as Article VII states only that "Committees are of two kinds: those having legal authority to act for the Corporation, known as Committees of the Board, and those that do not have that authority, known as Advisory Committees. Secion 3(a) states, "The Governmental Advisory Committee should consider and provide advice on the activities of the Corporation as they relate to concerns of governments, particularly matters where there may be an interaction between the Corporation's policies and various laws, and international agreements. The Board will notify the chairman of the Governmental Advisory Committee of any proposal for which it seeks comments under Article III, Section 3(b) and will consider any response to that notification prior to taking action." That is, the GAC is an _advisory committee, created to consider the 'concerns of governments' and their 'interaction' with ICANN policy, and as such, I agree that someone to look after such matters is entirely appropriate. But I fail to see that the agenda items I cited are the concerns of government, and even if they were, that they would interact with an organization which is on record as *not adopting the distinction of open versus closed TLDs. Did the Board "notify the chairman of the Governmental Advisory Committee of any proposal [on domains containing restrictions or conditions on registration that serve to ensure certainty with respect to the application and enforcement of laws] under Article III, Section 3(b)" or did it not? What is that proposal? Does it further pertain to "principles for the delegation of management for ccTLDs" -- that is, in one possible view, to the compelling of one or another ccTLD to adopt certain policies; for instance, a UDR? ICANN is required to make its board meetings public; I dont believe the committees are under the same obligation. If the GAC is doing ICANNs business, thats one thing; if it is doing Governments' business, thats something else, and I think we would be wise to know about it -- before 24 Aug. (Do any of the other Meetings run from 9 to 6:30??) Sour cynicism is well and good, but you may realize later that you have only yourself to blame for not keeping ICANNs feet to its own fire, regardless whose heels are the roundest. kerry