On Wed, 10 Nov 1999, Javier Rodriguez wrote:

> Dear Joe:

Dear Joe - is reposding to you in the GA and ifwp.  The IFWP message will
go through - and the Ga message will as always die in the big black
censorship hole administered by elisabeth.

> I can stand with you to figth against the censorship, but when you forget
> manners... uhhmmm... you make not easy to stand side by side to you...

Manners is irrelevant.  censorship is the worst form of crime in any
society, especially a free society.  It desearves  the strongest - most
negative replies and actions.

In your country - people who are censored and denied access usually resort
to murder and other such unatural crimes.

I have no interest in you standing next to me based on issues of manners.
We support the right to free speech - not because we agree with what is
being said, but because we support the right.

If we take your approach - then I can say with absolute certainty that the
NAZI hords believed strongly in free speech - providing such speech is
approved.  I don't think it appropriate to play that sort of game.  It's
simply put - wrong.

 > 
> Please dont tell me "they have lost manners before..." or "censorship is
> the worst bad behavior..."  ... we know it... ok ?

Then don't talk about it.  Talk is cheap - action shows intent.  Get rid
of the censorship and everyone will be happy.

> Lets look THE WAY to improve the process, to get a better ICANN would
> be our task for many years... crying is not helpfull in this situation... you are
> grown man, full of imagination, THINK and find a better way to improve
> the system !  got it ?????

Yes .. yes .. yes .. to don't have to ingratiate yourself with me.  I have
a very well centered understanding of myself - I was always a genius and
nothing has changed in 40 years.

The only way to improve Icann is to get rid of the censorship and invite
the masses in to participate - which is what I am doing.  What are you
doing to make Icann a better place?

> I ask you to start a review of the At large process and lets start a discussion
> about the AT LARGE elections.  I hope to get a ton of input from you, dont
> dissapoint me (sp!).

You won't get any input from me - I'm being prohibited from posting as
myself.  Maybe I'll post as someone else - and you'll get input then.  Or
maybe elisabeths big black censorship hole will open up and let me in to
post.

Regards
Joe Baptista

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