Mike, david  conrad is correct in what he says about routing 
registries and small isps, they complain vociferously  but there are 
valid technical reasons for what has been done,  and since the number 
of isps has grown from  maybe 1000 five years ago to about 10,000 now 
.  of course the  non portability of small address blocs has meant 
the growth of NAT boxs which prevents an end to end transparency for 
protocols like IPSEC which makes brian carpenter unhappy.  it is part 
of the kludges that scaled the internet so quickly over this period.





>Michael,
>
> > I know it's in the interests of IBM, MCI,& AT&T to put small
> > companies out of business, but is it in the interests of the RIRs?
>
>Sorry, I have _no_ interest in getting into yet another education effort on
>the implications of CIDR, address aggregation, provider based addressing, and
>why it is necessary.  I have been involved in and seen all the arguments and
>counter-arguments more times than I want to recall and have neither the time
>nor the interest in wading through it yet again.
>
>If this is something you are actually interested in (rather than using it as
>yet another rhetorical soapbox to bash ICANN), I suggest you start by reading
>the old IEPG and IETF CIDRD and ALE working group archives.  You might also
>check the APNIC and ARIN archives for the dicussions when they were
>established.  You will find much of the discussion repetitive -- as I
>indicated, this argument has been repeated _many_ times since people
>discovered that 32 bits was not infinite, but hopefully informative.
>
>The executive summary is: addresses are allocated the way they are because the
>folks who work at RIRs are interested in insuring the Internet continues to
>work.
>
>If you do not believe this statement, go read the stuff I mentioned above.
>
> > I've wasted two years reading what ICANN writes or posts. Not a
> > single thing they've said has been put into practice, just the
> > opposite. They are professional con artists, whose sole interest is
> > to take as much power away from individuals as they can. The users
> > have been swept aside, the ISPs have been swept aside, and sooner or
> > later you, too, will be swept aside if you don't wise up.
>
>Hopefully, you'll someday learn that demonizing in this way does very little
>to help your credibility.
>
>Rgds,
>-drc

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