>Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >X-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >From: "Richard J. Sexton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: Re[2]: [ga] Press Release Warns Internet Users about ICANN >Cc: "William X. Walsh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > John Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 17:52:12 -0400 (EDT) > >Rick? > >That information is in my signatuire file and has been for a year or mroe. > >If you tired an AXFR ans it didn't work, please let me know. It seems >to work for everybody else. When did you try it? > > > >At 02:08 PM 7/6/00 -0700, Rick H Wesson wrote: >> >>William, >> >>I requested the zones and the ORSC folks have denied me access to the >>zones. I don't think the 'O' in ORSC stands for open anymore. >> >>You can prove me wrong, post how to get the zone files, an axfr would >>do me just fine if it worked. >> >>All I want is their "root" and the zones they serve, NSI allows me to have >>the gTLD zones and the "ICANN root" is available via anonymous ftp. >> >>If ORSC is open then why are they reluctant to give up these files, after >>all I just want to do some growth stats on them. Doesn't ORSC want their >>growth verified by an 3rd party? >> >>what are you afraid of? >> >>-rick >> >> >> >>On Thu, 6 Jul 2000, William X. Walsh wrote: >> >>> Hello Rick, >>> >>> Getting them is so easy for anyone with any basic knowledge of dns. I >>> really am surprised that you have not been able to do it yourself and >>> instead post a message insinuating that ORSC is hiding them from you. >>> >>> I may disagree with ORSC's current positions, but this type of >>> mischaracterization is really out of line, especially on a public >>> list. >>> >>> Thursday, July 06, 2000, 7:43:08 AM, you wrote: >>> >>> >>> > John, >>> >>> > I would like daily access to the zone files for the TLDs you are laing >>> > claim to. >>> >>> > please let me know how to get them. this is the 3rd time I have asked OSRC >>> > folks how to get thier zones. at least NSI provides a method that anyone >>> > can get them. >>> >>> > so, are you open or does the "O" in ORSC stand for obfuscatory. >>> >>> > -rick >>> >>> >>> > On Thu, 6 Jul 2000, John Palmer wrote: >>> >>> >> ON THE EVE OF YOKOHAMA - A RADIO AD CAMPAIGN WARNING INTERNET >>> >> USERS ABOUT THE DAMAGE THAT ICANN WILL DO IF IT STAYS ON ITS >>> >> PRESENT COURSE >>> >> >>> >> CHICAGO, July 5, 2000 /BusinessWire/ >>> >> >>> >> AGN Domain Name Service, Inc (ADNS - http://www.adns.net) today announce >>> >> that it will be launching a radio ad campaign to educate users about >>> >> ICANN and the changes that may be coming to the internet as a result of >>> >> ICANN's policies. >>> >> >>> >> ICANN stands for the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and >Numbers - the >>> >> organization that is attempting to make policy on the future of the >internet. >>> >> ICANN is holding a conference in Yokohama, Japan on July 13 - 17 and >may vote >>> >> on new domain policy at that time. >>> >> >>> >> John Palmer, president and CEO of ADNS warns all internet users to >watch the >>> >> developments carefully. "Changes are coming to the internet and they >aren't >>> >> all good", Palmer said. "Special interests have hijacked the process >and are >>> >> influencing policy in a way that will be bad for internet users and >especially >>> >> domain holders". Palmer cites the heavy influence of the World >Intellectual >>> >> Property Organization (WIPO) as an example. "WIPO wants registrars to >be burdened >>> >> with the task of trademark policemen - a task that belongs in the >courts, not >>> >> on the backs of registrars, many of the small businesses with limited >resources". >>> >> >>> >> Another seemingly contradictory stand that ICANN is taking is their >refusal to >>> >> recognize the intellectual property rights of Top-Level Domain (TLD) >owners. >>> >> "ICANN seems to be interested in the protection of intellectual >property, but >>> >> refuses to recognize the ownership of TLDs by those who claimed them >via the >>> >> legitimate service mark process, such as ADNS did with EARTH, USA and >Z.", >>> >> Palmer said. He says that the biggest threat to domain name holders >however, >>> >> is that the ICANN process would attempt to have domain holders sign >away their >>> >> rights to use the courts to resolve disputes regarding domain ownership. >>> >> >>> >> Palmer is not opposed to the concept of ICANN. "The concept of an >organization >>> >> permanently assigned to govern the few aspects of the internet that >require >>> >> oversight is a good one, however this particular process has gone >horribly wrong >>> >> and permanent damage to the Internet will occur if it is not stopped >and fixed". >>> >> >>> >> The radio ad campaign which will air continuously on several >nationally syndicated >>> >> shows will begin later this week and will run for about 10 days. It >will inform >>> >> users about ICANN and will point them to a website that contains more >detailed >>> >> information. One of the solutions suggested is for ISPs and internet >users to >>> >> point their machines away from the root servers operated by ICANN and to >>> >> alternative providers who are not under ICANN's control. Instructions >for doing >>> >> this are available at various websites, including that of ADNS. >>> >> >>> >> Palmer also announced today that ADNS's root nameserver, ASLAN, a member >>> >> of the Open Root Server Consortium, received 763,311 hits in June - an >>> >> increase of over 40% over May. >>> >> >>> >> "Registrations of domains ending in EARTH, USA and Z are also up to >several >>> >> thousand domain names. We have really seen a growth in registrations >in the >>> >> past month due to our educational campaign", said Palmer. "What's more >important >>> >> is that people are switching to other root server networks in large >numbers, >>> >> showing that they do take notice and are concerned about ICANN". >>> >> >>> >> ADNS owns the three top-level domains "EARTH", "USA" and "Z" and >provides internet >>> >> sites with the ability to register a domain under these top-level >domains. ADNS >>> >> has been providing internet related services since 1993. >>> >> >>> >> Each month, ADNS will offer free registration, web hosting service and >domain >>> >> service for those registering a domain in a specific part of the >EARTH, USA or >>> >> Z hierarchy, provided that they promise to develop public content >under that domain name. >>> >> This month, anyone who registers a domain which ends in >MISSISSIPPI.USA on July 10th >>> >> between 4am and 5 am Eastern Time will receive free registration, DNS >and web hosting >>> >> services for one year. >>> >> >>> >> ADNS is part of the Open Root Server Consortium (ORSC - >http://www.open-rsc.org ), >>> >> a group of individuals and organizations who are all interested in an >open, fair >>> >> and technically sound global Domain Name System for the internet. ADNS >is providing >>> >> ASLAN free of charge for the use of the internet community. >>> >> >>> >> ADNS also operates the internet portal site called http://The.EARTH. >>> >> This site is accessible to any computer that is pointing to the new >DNS servers. >>> >> >>> >> SOURCE: AGN Domain Name Service, Inc. >>> >> >>> >> CONTACT: John Palmer, [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 312-849-2753 >>> >> >>> >>> > -- >>> > This message was passed to you via the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list. >>> > Send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] to unsubscribe >>> > ("unsubscribe ga" in the body of the message). >>> > Archives at http://www.dnso.org/archives.html >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Best regards, >>> William mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>> >> >> > > -- http://www.hungersite.org/cgi-bin/donate.pl http://www.clearlandmines.com >Richard Sexton | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://dns.vrx.net/tech/rootzone >http://killifish.vrx.net http://www.mbz.org http://lists.aquaria.net >Snail Mail: Maitland House, Bannockburn, Ontario. 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