There's alot of ester dyson in the air these days. she's managed to piss off a whole group of cypherpunks - go figure. The lists are alive with ester these days - and non of it very good. She's been spamming the cypherpunks. Not a good idea. Almost reminds me of a technological version of the good old roman days, the days of empire. The lions are in the ring, circling and hungry - and there's ester all ready for dinner. And I wonder if she knows she's the dinner. -- Joe Baptista http://www.dot.god/ dot.GOD Hostmaster