---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 08:33:39 -0800 From: Bill Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Esther's reply on spamming >To: Bill Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Esther Dyson) >Subject: Re: Were you really spamming people? I'm surprised. >Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 07:14:13 -0500 > >You might as well. It won't fix anything, I'm sure, but at least I had the >courage to respond. And what I say below is the truth; we still do talk >about this internally and I'm not sure what's the ideal approach. (A number >of people *do* say what you said: It's interesting to know what I'm up to. >I respond to everyone who responds to the mailing other than bounces.) So, >yes, I'd be happy to engage in argument (as opposed to flaming). > >Esther > >At 10:42 AM 10/29/00 -0800, Bill Stewart wrote: >>Esther - thanks. Actually, no need to remove me; while I'm not >>going to subscribe to Release 1.0, it's still interesting to know >>what you're doing. Is it ok if I forward your mail on to Cypherpunks, >>or alternatively to Tim? >> >> Thanks; Bill >> >>At 08:37 AM 10/29/00 -0500, Esther wrote: >>>Your definition may vary, but yes, we sent out a mailing to people who one >>>way or another have given me cards, corresponded with me, etc. I don't >>>honestly know how Tim got onto our list, but we'll take him off right away. >>> >>>In fact, as you can see below, we invite people to ask to be removed, and if >>>they do, we remove them immediately. (It's nicer when they ask us >>>directly, but we'll treat this as a removal request from both you and Tim!) >>> >>>And yes, this troubles me a little, but overall I am more concerned about >>>the use of confidential data to invade someone's privacy, than about the >>>issue of spam. (I get enough of it, especially over ICANN, to know that >>>it's annoying.....but harmless.) I'm on record that people should (and will) >>>be able to filter their own spam, but that they do need to be able to rely >>>on promises of confidentiality when they deal with others. That's a somewhat >>>different issue. >>> >>>Esther >>> >>>At 01:21 AM 10/29/00 -0700, Bill Stewart wrote: >>>>Hi, Esther - this message got sent to the Cypherpunks list, >>>>and several other people pointed to references about you sending out >>>>advertising email to people other than your conference attendees >>>>or people who'd requested more information. >>>>I'm really surprised - it doesn't sound like something you'd do. >>>> >>>>Also, I tried to check out the release1-0.com web site, >>>>and it said something about the RPC server being too busy. >>>> >>>> Thanks; Bill Stewart >>>> ... [Tim's message, deleted] >>> >>>HIGH-TECH-FORUM, BARCELONA, NOVEMBER 1 TO 3 >>>http://www.edventure.com/htforum2000.html >>> >>>Esther Dyson Always make new mistakes! >>>chairman, EDventure Holdings >>>chairman, Internet Corp. for Assigned Names & Numbers >>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>1 (212) 924-8800 -- 1 (212) 924-0240 fax >>>104 Fifth Avenue (between 15th and 16th Streets; 20th floor) >>>New York, NY 10011 USA >>>http://www.edventure.com http://www.icann.org >>> >>>PC Forum: 25 to 28 March 2001, Scottsdale (Phoenix), Arizona Thanks! Bill Bill Stewart, [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Fingerprint D454 E202 CBC8 40BF 3C85 B884 0ABE 4639
