To put it briefly, some of the most infamous big-name outages in the
history of the Internet were blamed on DNS failures. Some of them
probably even were DNS failures.

I ended up giving a free pass to my entire client base one month because
I'd just had all my IP addresses changed - including the DNS servers -
and gotten into a chicken-and-egg scenario.

I always run at least 2 DNS servers. I have multiple boxes. If one goes
down and it has a domain name server on it, the other boxes continue to
be locatable via the other domain name server.

   Tim

On Wed, 2011-01-12 at 15:30 -0500, Chad Bailey wrote:
> There are many reasons for this. It's just like saying why is RAID
> better when a flood is going to take out the whole raid array? There
> is still value in the redundancy, but the amount of value can be
> argued.
> 
> Also, when referring to a server having the DNS hosted on the same
> server as the website itself... Well, it's not unheard of for a single
> daemon to go down and the other to remain unaffected until a problem
> is rectified. While I agree the redundancy can be a bit silly at
> times, having multiple DNS options is important, especially when the
> average PC user cannot troubleshoot DNS issues.
> 
> Me personally, I think it makes sense, but it's not of major
> importance. The more separation they have the better, for example
> first level of separation would be on 2 different virtual servers on
> the same box, then 2 separate machines all together, then 2 separate
> machines on separate connections, then finally (and ideally) 2 diff
> servers on totally different connections in different geographical
> areas. DNS does take a while to propagate which is another value to
> redundancy
> 
> On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 1:38 PM, William L. Thomson Jr.
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On Wed, 2011-01-12 at 13:29 -0500, Deny IP Any Any wrote:
> >> On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 1:12 PM, William L. Thomson Jr.
> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> > I have never understood that for this reason alone. If you only have one
> >> > real server, who cares how many DNS servers you have. If that one server
> >> > is down/offline/unavailable, what good does multiple DNS servers do
> >> > anyone?
> >>
> >> *If* you only have one server, then you've already made lots of
> >> compromises with regard to business continuity, and one more case of
> >> lack of redundancy clearly doesn't bother you.
> >
> > Single servers are likely much more common than fully redundant
> > environments. I can't recall how many times I have called into a company
> > to hear their systems are down, unavailable, etc. At times major
> > financial institutions, who likely have redundancies in place.
> >
> >> > Not to mention one of the simplest, most straight forward, and reliable
> >> > server services I have ever setup or worked with is DNS. It has never
> >> > made sense to me why you need two DNS servers, ideally on separate
> >> > networks. Now I do understand the importance of DNS in the general scope
> >> > of things. But again, if your servers are down, what good does a bunch
> >> > of DNS servers do you?
> >>
> >> What good does having a bunch of servers do you if your one-and-only
> >> DNS server has a hardware failure (or its NIC dies, or somebody
> >> unplugs it, or you are doing an 'apt-get update' on it, or somebody
> >> fat-fingers an ACL and blocks all packets to it, or BIND/kernel
> >> segfaults)? The idea is to make every link in the chain redundant if
> >> you really need high uptime, not just bits-n-pieces.
> >
> > Well I am not really advocating a single DNS server per se. But if you
> > only have a single server, then not sure what good having multiple DNS
> > servers really does you. Short of the scenarios mentioned in another
> > thread.
> >
> >> > Case in point, firebirdsql.org seems to be down atm. But they have a
> >> > whole bunch of DNS servers (~6) doing name to IP translation. Which
> >> > considering you can't get anything by hitting the single IP address all
> >> > 6 name servers serve up. Almost moot that you get an IP at all from DNS.
> >>
> >> This seems to be a case of having too much redundancy in certain
> >> areas, and clearly, not enough in others.
> >
> > Which I think is quite common, but I could be wrong.
> >
> > --
> > William L. Thomson Jr.
> > Obsidian-Studios, Inc.
> > http://www.obsidian-studios.com
> >
> >
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