When I tried to add back in my desktop cube, I was stuck with no window having 
a menu bar, no launcher bar, and no top desktop bar. Although I could still get 
to command line by Ctrl-Alt F#, what would be a command to start basic Gnome 
features? And as far as a distro, what does it say about the other mods they 
have as part of the main trunk? I just can't overlook a fubar of this 
magnitude, I am only just now reconsidering RedHat after the gcc 2.96 debacle. 
(RedHat released a beta + mods version of the compiler that couldn't properly 
compile the main c libraries, it finished, but the entire toolchain was subtly 
broken, and I was doing an LFS build - wasted about 3 days because of it). 
Also, with my wife, son, mom, and aunt on Linux, I wouldn't want them to do an 
update that hoses them after I put them all on ubuntu. Luckily, they are still 
on mint except my wife (kubuntu for now).

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> From: "A.Padilla" <[email protected]>
> Date: May 1, 2011 10:52:03 AM EDT
> To: Marshall <[email protected]>
> Cc: Jax-LUG <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: Just say no! Ubuntu 11.04 is crap
> 

> You could just change the UI.  What makes Ubuntu compelling, for me, is the 
> package management (apt), the documentation and how up to date the packages 
> are.  You sure there's no way to just get standard gnome as your ui? 
> 
> On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 10:26 AM, Marshall <[email protected]> wrote:
> I just installed 11.04 Ubuntu yesterday, and today am researching a new 
> distro. After being an Ubuntu fanboy for a good long while, i'm done. This 
> new Unity launcher bar is buggy at best, disables multiple desktops by 
> default, gets rid of the FREAKING APPLICATION MENU, and removes an 
> applications menus (some are hidden in the top bar and can be revealed with a 
> mouseover, gparted had none, nada, zip. I had to either Ctrl-Alt F1 and kill 
> it from there, or use the god-awful unity crap, which only became visible 
> again after switching desktops, and right-click and Quit from there. I 
> haven't decided on CentOS, Gentoo, rPath, Arch, or LFS. I would do LFS again, 
> but I still haven't found a good indie package management tool.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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