BTW, here is a screenshot of what it looks like when you package your
application:
http://www.adobe.com/devnet/coldfusion/articles/clustering_06.html

On 9/24/07, Dave Shuck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I forgot to mention that you will indeed have to use Enterprise for that
> ability.
>
> On 9/24/07, Dave Shuck <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
> >
> > Christopher, they are simply spouting off about things that they don't
> > have knowledge about nor understand.  Since at least version 7 (possibly
> > 6.1, but I don't think so), ColdFusion has had the ability to be
> > deployed by way of sourceless deployment.  There are many articles
> > explaining how to do this, but in essence you install it into a J2EE server
> > as a compiled java application.
> >
> > For bullet points to back this up, and for a few additional bullet
> > points related to security, check this link:  
> > http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/coldfusion7/features/
> >
> >
> > In short:
> > _____________
> > EAR/WAR deployment
> >
> > Deploy an application and the entire ColdFusion runtime as a standard
> > Java™ archive (EAR or WAR file). Moving ColdFusion applications into
> > production in J2EE environments has never been easier.
> > Sourceless deployment
> >
> > Optionally omit unencrypted ColdFusion Markup Language (CFML) source in
> > ColdFusion applications packaged as J2EE archives, allowing applications to
> > be redistributed and helping protect sensitive information.
> > _____________
> >
> > When you take this approach, there is absolutely no difference between
> > this and any other Java application that they deploy.
> >
> > ~Dave
> >
> > On 9/24/07, Ron Mast < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > >  I'm thinking you could map a drive to your application server from
> > > your web server and then assign that drive as the home directory and I
> > > believe you can connect to SQL server via network to create an ODBC or 
> > > JDBC
> > > connection. Haven't tried it but I'm guessing that would work. Hopefully I
> > > didn't misunderstood you.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Ron Mast
> > >
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> > > *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > *On Behalf Of *Christopher Jordan
> > > *Sent:* Monday, September 24, 2007 12:56 PM
> > > *To:* Dallas/Fort Worth ColdFusion User Group Mailing List
> > > *Subject:* [DFW CFUG] Security Questions
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi folks,
> > >
> > > I need some advice. One of our bigger clients has a handful of Java
> > > developers working for them who don't particularly like ColdFusion. While
> > > their initial complaints were that it wasn't open source and that you're
> > > tied to one particular company (thoughts which I quickly squashed), now
> > > they're whispering in the ear of the decision makers that Cold Fusion 
> > > won't
> > > do "Three Tiered Security".
> > >
> > > I just now think I remember asking the group about this once before,
> > > but it's probably worth talking about again. Their idea of the three 
> > > tiered
> > > security model is that there's a web server, an application server, and a
> > > database server. The web server contains no code, no passwords, and can 
> > > only
> > > communicate to the application server by virtue of the web server's IP
> > > address, and because the web server is the only machine that knows where 
> > > the
> > > application server is. Sounds a bit like "security through obscurity" to 
> > > me,
> > > but what do I know?
> > >
> > > Anyway, these Java developers are telling the decision makers at this
> > > client that ColdFusion just isn't secure because it can't do this three
> > > tiered security stuff, but Java can. So they're saying, "why don't you 
> > > just
> > > let us rewrite everything in Java for you?"
> > >
> > > Well, while my little company has never run CF as anything but a
> > > windows service, using CF Standard. We figure that it's written in Java so
> > > we ought to be able to make CF run in this sort of three tiered 
> > > environment
> > > too.
> > >
> > > So my questions are:
> > >
> > >    * Are these developer's right? Is CF not capable of running this
> > > Three Tiered model, and are we less safe for it?
> > >    * If in fact, CF *can* run in this Three Tiered model, will we need
> > > to upgrade to CF Enterprise to do it?
> > >    * Lots of our code is proceedural, though we've been switching to
> > > using CFCs slowly (not really OO, but rather storing related queries, and
> > > functions in CFCs)
> > >    * What arguments can we make to our client on this subject?
> > >    * Can anyone point me to any articles or other materials online
> > > concerning this topic specific to CF?
> > >
> > > Thanks for any help guys and gals. I'm going to cross-this to CF-Talk,
> > > so I apologize in advance for any duplication I may cause.
> > >
> > > Chris
> > >
> > > --
> > > http://cjordan.us
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